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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Satelliteracer, Jul 26, 2010.
The 95% was that 95% don't watch PPV .. not that 95% do watch PPV.
Ah, thank you.
(PS. not close to 95% that don't either).
Just based on the straw poll here, 25% could (IMHO) be classified as "regular" PPV users (at least 4 PPVs per year). I think "larger than we theorize" is good enough to see that it's a very valuable commodity to DIRECTV.
Do 1-3 Cinema HD per month, during slow times, or when something is interesting.
Very nice to have spontaneous access.
LOL I would take that bet in a heart beat!
Most if the guys on this forum are extreme TV buffs. The Average Joe has Basic cable and PPV is not even part of his dreams.
Well, I think you'd be wrong.
First, the average Joe customer for the sake of this discussion doesn't have cable, he has D*.
Secon, the average Joe doesn't stream Netflix or download shows from the internet and view them on their TV, or any of the other myriad of ways that members here get their movie fix.
The average customer watches a couple of movies per month and wants easy access (so they don't spill their beer and chips), so PPV wins out much of the time.
You're wrong. I'd bother to tell you why, but you would probably just hit us with another conspiracy theory.
Yeah, I'd think the average customer would take the easy way out .. "oh, I can order movies on my remote? Cool!"
No late fees, no late trip to beat the late fees, no worries about what they have in stock, etc.
LOL I did a quick search and found several related polls to PPV, including one done by me last year that I forgot about. The Numbers seem to be about 75% of people on this Forum, and even though you say it would be more in the General public, my own experience installing dishes for a living tells me that a lot less people in the General Public have a Internet or Phone line connected to their systems than people on this forum, and most of them Never call Directv unless they have a problem. We will never be able to prove who is right or wrong.
Were did you get that from? The Average person has some form of Cable, not Satellite TV.
Directv and dish probably have about 30% market share combined! I don't have recent figures but I bet it's pretty close to that.
The Average Joe is not spending $4.99 to watch a Movie, the Average Joe is trying to save money not waste it.
You missed his point entirely .. He was stating that the average "DIRECTV" customer has DIRECTV service .. This is a thread about DIRECTV not cable. That was the point.
OK .. Yes with THIS statement you are correct as I don't think that more than 50% of the customers are spending $4.99 on a movie with DIRECTV. BUT .. we are saying that an average customer is MORE LIKELY to get a PPV than the folks here who find numerous ways to get a movie.
So "more" in this case means perhaps 30% instead of 25%. Remember this all started with you pulling the number "95% of people don't get PPV" out of thin air. Even your own poll shows the number to be significantly different than your claim.
For every Lock there is NOT always a key, in most cases a Key will not be found in any reasonable length of Time!
Let me give you some examples of this.
Since we are talking Directv I will use them. The first Access Card, Cracked. The Second Access Card, Cracked. The Third Access Card, Never Cracked and people have given up trying, even though millions of dollars were spent trying.
Dish Network Cards: First and second, cracked. The third was never really cracked, and doubtful that it ever will be. Same with European Nagra 3 cards
CBand: Videocipher 2: Version 1 and 2 Cracked. Digicipher the newer version: Never Cracked and thats almost 20 years later.
PHP encryption never cracked and almost certainly never will be! Unless someone figures out how to reverse large Prime number products which even though the Israelis have made boasts "they can". They have never proved it, nor do cryptologists believe it's even remotely possible.
The reason for 3D is that the Motion Picture Industry realizes that foreign markets are becoming an increasing large share of their profits and unlike the US market they have little or no control over Piracy in other countries. Their own success even in the USA has been dismal so they have decided to approach this from disabling the source rather than fight the symptoms.
They have tried in the Past (in this order)
1) Prosecuting people for Downloading Material. Result, the press said they were trying to lock up little Suzie for watching movies and listening to music. Bad PR. so they stopped.
2) Going after the Source, trying to shutdown servers etc and lock up the Top people. Result: The Pirates wrote software that shares without main hubs, so there is no master source. Also off shore Hubs are near impossible to prosecute. So the movie industry basically gave up.
3) Releasing the Movie in all countries simultaneously. Result: It worked better than anything before it, they cut down on pirated movie sales, a small dent was made.
4) Adding Digital Artifacts to the Picture that would be picked up by a Handheld Camera’s but not noticed by the theater viewer. Result: It worked, but they knew it could be removed frame by frame. They knew sooner or later software would come around that could automatically remove it, and that happened as predicted
5) 3D: It gets rid of Camera versions completely while paying for itself. It’s unlikely to be defeated by software.
BTW you guys have no idea how many Theaters world wide have 3D do you?
Many countries, especially places that they believe are havens for Cam Pirates have been upgraded.
Lastly the reason they still do 2D versions is because not everywhere has been upgraded to the new 3D and that’s going to take time. In the meantime they focus on the places where CAM copies originate and take out the sources by forcing theaters to upgrade to 3D.
Your Right that it's about Profit, your just not seeing that 3D in itself is not the Profit, the profit is getting Millions of new ticket sales in countries were sales have been killed by Piracy.
LOOK at this point I don't really care who believes, I know what I know. For those who are Skeptical, don't believe me, just believe your own eye's. How many of those 3D movies that you have seen did you come out of the theater and wonder why was it made in 3D? Ever notice how many of them use almost no 3D effects. Higher price tickets you think. Well that higher price is offset by the millions of people who just wont go to a 3D movie because it hurts their eyes, gives them headaches or is just painful to watch because they wear glasses.
Sounds like you're implying it's all about the money.
Doug what I am saying is that a 75% Poll on this forum is probably about a 85% in the real world. YES I did GUESS the 95% number, it's an estimate but I dont think I am all that far off, in the real world it's probably 85%. Once again a guess since I have searched and searched and found no public polls on the topic.
It's amazing how hard they are pushing it, and if you look at that alone you will see what I am saying is true. Any extra profits they are making on Ticket sales is being killed by the high number of people who have an adverse reaction to 3D and the high cost associated with them off setting a large portion of the theaters upgrade expenses has killed "Extra" 3D profits for a long time to come.
But Foreign ticket sales are going up and up.
4.99 is cheap when compared to buying theater ticket and food at concession stands. Especially for families.
I had free tickets to see Toy Story 3 to cover three folks going, all we needed to buy were snacks, that came out to $21.53. I can make a lot of popcorn for $21.53.