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Article on Mike White, CEO of DIRECTV...authentication, 3D, TV Everywhere

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Satelliteracer, Jul 26, 2010.

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  1. Jul 27, 2010 #81 of 298
    inkahauts

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    Directv does not use cable math when stating how many ppv choices they have. They never have, they never will. And he has specifically stated they are increase the number of movies available, so it does matter that they didn't say channels.
     
  2. Jul 28, 2010 #82 of 298
    keith_benedict

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    The quote says:

    "We’re going to go from less than 20 [movies] to 400-plus. As we evolve towards connecting the box to the Internet, it enables us to go to thousands and thousands."

    This leads me to believe that are at least two steps to get to "thousands" of movies. To get to "thousands", they look to Internet delivery. To get to 400, they look to ??? Makes me think that the 400 will come from the sky.
     
  3. Jul 28, 2010 #83 of 298
    Doug Brott

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    Yes, they will come from the sky .. No, they will not take up 400 channels. You're welcome to think that 100% of the bandwidth on D12 will be taken up by PPVs .. But that isn't what is going to happen.

    I don't know the specifics .. I do know that 400 movies doesn't equal 400 channels and that The content will be delivered differently. There may be some additional PPV channels, but it will be small. There is plenty of capacity for missing HD channels (both present and future).
     
  4. Jul 28, 2010 #84 of 298
    HoTat2

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    Pardon me for not being able to quite grasp the concept here, but how are these future some 400 to eventually 1000s of PPV movie offerings that will have to obviously come predominately by internet going to really be much different than the present system of DirecTV-on-Demand (DoD) VOD service?
     
  5. Jul 28, 2010 #85 of 298
    paulman182

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    How do you know the quality of 1080p PPV movies if you have never watched one?

    I have watched many and the picture quality is definitely better than, say, the premium movie channels. I would say DirecTV's 1080p is very, very close to Blu-ray. I can't say exactly how close because I have not done an A/B comparison, but the quality is excellent and the improvement over movie channels is easily noticed.
     
  6. Jul 28, 2010 #86 of 298
    ffemtreed

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    So is this new service a change in thinking at DTV that instead of having the same movie and 10 channels and playing all day straight they are going to play more variety of movies instead of scrolling the same one? Seems this would be wise with more and more people getting DVR.
     
  7. Jul 28, 2010 #87 of 298
    BudShark

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    400 will come from the sky. You are using the wrong terms though.
    HBO shows 5+ movies a day. Those 5 movies are on 1 channel though. So... Instead of the current PPV offerings that repeat the same program on the same channel over and over and over, and on another channel offset by 30 minutes over and over... change that.

    If I require you to have a DVR for "full" DirecTV cinema - and I let you "queue" a movie up for recording to watch in the next 24-48 hours (trade-off being you have to plan your watching) - now all of a sudden I can fit 10 movies on 1 channel in a 24 hour period. And I don't have to have the duplicate channel offset by 30 minutes. Channels won't be dedicated to a movie.

    So - will 400 come from a satellite? Yes. Will 400 consume all the bandwidth on said satellite? No. Can we assume no more HD channels? No more than we can assume that existing PPVHD channels that have already been assigned and every bitched about ARE the transponders that will be used for delivering DirecTV Cinema... :eek: But... well that would be a good way to think about it. :grin:

    Overlay it will a queueing system, put the most watched, highest rated movies on the satellite so everyone can get them without the need for broadband - and there you go. So, for the current DoD stuff? It'll be overlayed with a new GUI (as has been stated), a queue system, and supplemented with satellite delivery of the 400 most popular.

    The one major negative... DirecTV Cinema is no where NEAR Blu-Ray quality. While it is better than HBO, better than DirecTV - I would put it somewhere behind a quality 1080P upconversion and vastly behind Blu-Ray. Of course, the smaller the screen the less obvious the issue.
     
  8. Jul 28, 2010 #88 of 298
    BudShark

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    Yes.... I'm sure for a while we'll have some legacy... but as the DVR saturation and WHDVR gets traction - it seems silly to have movies running on multiple channels @ 30 minute offsets. And once you make this change in direction... it opens up a whole lot of bandwidth to get you closer to 400.
     
  9. Jul 28, 2010 #89 of 298
    Justin23

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    Not true....D* has partnerships with both Verizon and AT&T for both residential & commercial customers. Those telcos will always need another TV option for customers that don't qualify for their own video product (FiOS/Uverse)
     
  10. Jul 28, 2010 #90 of 298
    ffemtreed

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    So do you know this for a fact or is this your opinion on who its going to work?
     
  11. Jul 28, 2010 #91 of 298
    BudShark

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    Depends on what part you are talking about.

    The queueing and download of movies from satellite? Thats fact... its been floating around for a while now. Its just an extension of the older Movies they used to select and download for you.

    Whether they start turning off some of the existing PPV and use those transponders for this purpose? Guess (note the part where I said it seems silly to keep doing this once you have DVR saturation up)

    The idea that DirecTV Cinema will NOT consume all remaining available bandwidth and keep any new HD channels from launching? Fact. I suggest searching this thread for Doug and Satracers comments on that subject.
     
  12. Jul 28, 2010 #92 of 298
    Hoosier205

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    The picture quality of DirecTV's 1080p is good. They are still nothing close to BD quality either. We also have to keep in mind that PPV audio is lossy. I agree though, the improvement over premium channel quality is noticeable.
     
  13. Jul 28, 2010 #93 of 298
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    Any talk about why the sound on his "superior" service cuts out every 5 friggin' minutes?
     
  14. Jul 28, 2010 #94 of 298
    keith_benedict

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    Well, I can't watch 1080p movies from Directv because I don't have a TV that support 24p mode...which, if I remember correctly, is a requirement to watch in 1080p. The last time I tried to switch to 1080p resolution on my HR20-700, it told me my TV doesn't support it.

    I can watch 1080p movies from my Blu-ray player just fine.
     
  15. Jul 28, 2010 #95 of 298
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    I don't like the planned push to so much internet based content. He talks about 90% of households being accessible through broadband partners but I would hazard a guess that the leftover 10% that live in the sticks are overwhelmingly satellite customers. Are they taking these customers for granted as they have no other choice and they are not a "growth" market? Seems likely.

    Web based programming also seems to just increase their competition to me. All the telcos and cable can easily compete with ip offerings. They need to differentiate their offerings from FIOS as they can't really compete with straight bandwidth from fiber.

    I don't really like the cost of Sunday ticket but it is truly the difference maker in mine and many other people's decisions. Exclusivity is what is keeping them ahead of Dish as most people would be drawn to Dish's cheaper prices and oblivious to any difference in PQ.

    If the NFL weren't in the picture and I had access to FIOS or perhaps even cable (yecch), then it would be a truly tougher decision to stick with DirecTV.
     
  16. Jul 28, 2010 #96 of 298
    mdavej

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    Getting a little OT here, but you can watch all DirecTV 1080p content on any TV. It'll just be 1080i on your set. Not a big deal.
     
  17. Jul 28, 2010 #97 of 298
    BudShark

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    Rock meet hard place.

    The 400 vs 1000s conversation is BECAUSE of the non-broadband customer. Its because they value them. If they didn't, they'd throw up a few HD PPVs, put the rest on broadband and say "Deal with it".

    But, since they value all customers, they have this hybrid idea of having the most popular choices delivered via sat, meaning 100% of customers can get them. But, that plan angers people who don't want/use PPV and/or have broadband because they don't want limited sat space used for things like PPV - they'd rather it all be on servers and we get more national HD channels. :grin:

    Can't make everyone happy can you? But, characterizing them expanding their offerings beyond the non-broadband customer as "not caring" is a bit disingenuous - especially when they continue to make sacrifices to keep expanding the non-broadband customers options... ;)

    As far as expanding into web offerings? Well, not sure they have a choice... got to grow somewhere. PPV, unique offerings (NFL, 3D, custom channels) and web seem the most likely.
     
  18. Jul 28, 2010 #98 of 298
    Satelliteracer

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    On the 400 PPV offerings, you guys need to think differently than how it's traditionally delivered and consumed. That's your hint.
     
  19. Jul 28, 2010 #99 of 298
    hdtvfan0001

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    Yes indeed sir.

    That's what a few of us have been saying for a while now...thanks for the added reinforcement hint.

    Coupled with recent Mike White comments...there have been other "hints".
     
  20. ffemtreed

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    I sure hope they don't plan on filling up our harddrives with content pumped from space, or least give us a way to opt out of it.
     
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