Article on Mike White, CEO of DIRECTV...authentication, 3D, TV Everywhere

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  1. reweiss

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    I'd be curious if we could every log into DirecTV.com and watch our shows while travelling (obvious you'd only get access to what you pay for) how would the non-football sports packages work. DirecTV allows us to watch football games if we pay for the NFL package, but would I be able to see my Yankees games while travelling since I pay for the MLB Extra Innings package?

    Would MLB allow this to happen and prevent them from double billing us (DirecTV Extra Innings and also billing us for Internet access MLB TV on MLB.com)?

    I won't pay for MLB TV on principle since I have already paid for the baseball games on DirecTV.
     
  2. BudShark

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    My "you know what".

    My point is - there are 2 ways to provide TV everywhere type services.

    The locally stored server concept using a large server with enough content to satisfy the household and provide services both in house (MRV), out of house (like Sling), and remote control functions (RVU or an app). In this case, 1TB is NOT going to be enough... it would need to be something larger... How large? Depends on the family.
    Plus: You have direct access to the content you want and own. Better performance. Lower bandwidth requirements.
    Minus: You only have the content you own, and providers don't like you having content locally that you share.

    Or...
    The centrally stored server (the Comcast model) would be you streaming content from their server and not storing much locally. Requires minimal content locally, but much higher bandwidth to improve the user experience.
    Plus: Less/No hardware in the home - Existing hardware is sufficient. Content Providers favor this model.
    Minus: Performance based on bandwidth. Less feasible for a 3rd party (non-ISP) provider due to dependence on a competitor.

    The 10TB number was just a random... some families might be fine with 1 TB, some might be good with 5 TB, richierich would need 250TB... :lol:
     
  3. Earl Bonovich

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    I think the key piece of catrivision's post was the :lol:
     
  4. hdtvfan0001

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    A sum of the parts....5 HD DVRs with 2TB each....plus....Whole Home DVR Service = 10TB perhaps?
     
  5. GoPokes43

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    With 20,000,000 subscribers, the likelihood that nearly all 400 of the programs would be in demand at the same time is pretty high, particularly in prime time hours. So, DirecTV would have to plan for the probability that nearly 400 shows would be in demand at the same time. Not only that, but with staggered start times. So, even if you have a 30 minute buffer recorded, you would have to deal with people starting a show at 8:00, 8:42, 9:07, and so on. Accordingly, one movie may need to be sent down on five different channels with varying start times for real time demand even if you do have a buffer. So, maybe you need transponder room for upwards of 2,000 channels.
     
  6. Doug Brott

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    Yup .. That's what the broadband connection is for ..
     
  7. mgavs

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    It's not the geekness that's the issue, it's the culture. There are other business disasters resulting from a new CEO who were hired "out of their" elements. Mars vs Venus..... Anyway, I hope for the best but don't expect it.
     
  8. Doug Brott

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    Hmmm .. So far things seem to be going well. I've certainly not seen any signs that Michael White has been a bad decision @ CEO.
     
  9. dreadlk

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    IMO Directv has once again completely missed the Point and just blunders ahead into whatever direction they believe is the most futuristic!

    Most people don’t care about 400 channels of VOD or PPV or whatever, especially if it's tying up bandwidth on their ADSL connection. Also why does Directv think that the ISP's are going to hand them a free unlimited Directv connection. If by some miracle Directv's plan did catch on you could bet that the Per MB argument by IPS's would be given serious consideration by the Government. In other words if this works we will all start paying per MB for ISP connections.

    Second why does Directv even think that I want to watch more PPV??
    95% of us won't even buy the top rated hot movies on PPV right now, why would we want to buy older movies? At what point does Directv just become a competitor for Starz?

    3D LOL:
    3D is a waste of time! Everyone in Hollywood is trying desperately to shove 3D down our throats, for those of you still reading my Post let me give you some bonus info that most people don't know. The main reason they are pushing 3D into theaters is to stop piracy! Yes you heard me right, it's to stop Piracy! I heard this first hand from a theater owner. You see Cam videos (Copies of the Movie made by using a Handheld video Camera in the Theater) have been a serious problem for the motion picture industry.

    In the old days people in America use to get to see the Movie first, so American pirates would make Cam copies of the movie and distribute them on the Internet, were millions of people in other countries would download it, add subtitles if needed and then resell the DVD's on the street for $1 US. By the time the real movie hit the theaters in these countries attendance was down in the gutters.

    So they got smart, a few years ago they started to release the movies simultaneously all around the world, sometimes they would release them first in other countries before even the USA so that the people would pay to see the movie rather than buy a bootleg copy. Now if that sounds crazy to you, keep in mind that the main driving factor for Kids today (worldwide) is to be able to say "I Saw the Movie Already" you don't want to go to school on a Monday and hear everybody talking about how good movie "X" was and your the only one who has not seen it. This was why Bootleg copies worldwide have been such a problem, most people would rather say they saw the movie than wait a few weeks like most of us would and be able to see a proper screening.

    Anyway this solution only partially worked, so they have moved onto the best solution, which is 3D. You cant Cam a 3D movie in the theaters, all you get is a blurred mess, so it has cut out all of the distributed CAM versions world wide and significantly boosted world wide box office receipts. The other benefit is that they hope they will get to a point were everyone has a 3D bluray player and TV then they will be able to release the Movies only in 3D which will be a much bigger file size than traditional BluRay H264 files and therefore be harder to share the bluray copies via the internet.

    Anyway I agree with those who say 3D is dead, even though the movie industry will kick and fight till the end on this, the truth is the vast majority of the public is beginning to really hate 3D. For example I went to see "Conception" last week and I can’t tell you how many people I heard say "Thank God it's not in 3D". So Directv can keep wasting their money on 3D, I give 3D about another 9 months and 3D will be almost dead and buried. Every ten years Hollywood resurrects 3D, so I expect in 2020 the next 3D revolution will start again.
     
  10. Doug Brott

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    Uh, speaking of "completely missing the point" .. The "400 titles" (Not channels :rolleyes:) is for those WITHOUT broadband connections to their DVR. THAT is the point. This has zero to do with ADSL connections.
     
  11. Hoosier205

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    First of all...wow. Let's just get that out of the way.

    ...it is 400 titles, not channels. This also has nothing to do with your broadband connection.

    Obviously, enough customers are using their PPV features as it has been very profitable for DirecTV. You've pulled your "95%" assumption right out of thin air.

    Ummm...thank you for the wild conspiracy theory. Ready for the truth? 3D is not being heavily marketed and utilized in order to avoid pirating. The theater owner you spoke to must be ill-informed or a bit nutty...or both, since his ideas make little sense.
     
  12. dreadlk

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    I hear much talk in this thread of using an internet connection to deliver content and it's not the Number that's the Issue, it's the whole idea of adding more PPV or more VOD. We don't watch the stuff to begin with so why bother. I know your trying to Scuttle my post with picking on that point, but I figure you know exactly what I mean;)

     
  13. hdtvfan0001

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    ....further substanitated by the fact that there will be no less than 20 3D HD movies released in 2010. Some fad huh? :D
     
  14. Hoosier205

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    You mean that you are not watching PPV and VOD. Don't speak for everyone. DirecTV wouldn't pay to acquire the content if enough customers were not then paying for those services as well. :rolleyes:
     
  15. Doug Brott

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    OK, so you don't watch PPV or VOD. :shrug:

    Thanks for telling us. Clearly someone does or DIRECTV wouldn't be "wasting" their time one it.
     
  16. Hoosier205

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    Yep. :lol: Now we have dreadlk trying to inform us of a worldwide conspiracy of epic proportions. :rolling: Wow, I needed a good laugh.
     
  17. hdtvfan0001

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    The 3D movement is driven by innovation, preferences, and profitabiliy...no different than any other newer technology.

    As for conspiracy theory....I saw the movie already thank you. :D
     
  18. dreadlk

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    Mentioned that in the Above post.


    When ever the PPV question is asked on this Forum it is certainly numbers in that region who say they actually actively buy PPV.


    Look I will give you some ground on the other issues; on this one you know nothing when you speak. This is an area I am very familiar with on a personal level and have friends in very high places on this one.
    Piracy is the Major reasons for 3D. If you think the millions of dollars spent to upgrade theaters was so that you could see that paltry little bit of 3D that is in most movies your the kind of guy who buys swamp land. This is not the first attempt by the industry to use visual effects to thwart Cam videos. In 2007 - 2009 they embedded images into movies that made Cam versions produce horrible artifacts, they then realized this was not working in 2009 when software was being used to automaticaly remove the Artifacts, something which they knew would happen so they had already started to Plan a better strategy by using 3D.
     
  19. hdtvfan0001

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    There is no firm evidence to support that claim.

    One thing that anyone in the technology learns early on is that "for every lock, there is a key"...meaning....that history has shown that before any new technology becomes widespread....somebody "cracks the code" for piracy.

    I personally abhor that, and think they should lock those folks up for a long, long time....but it happens over and over and over.

    Yet now, people routinely replicate Blu Ray disks, which had the very same premise and claim as the 3D comment I quoted - that held up less than 30 days from technology mainstream introduction.

    Any informed person who seriously believes that 3D technology will not be pirated needs to read the blogs and news in Pacific Rim nations....its already a work in progress over there. Very sad and clearly wrong, but a reality.

    Fact is, the motivation for 3D contents are:

    1) It's new, so people will in the least explore it an in the most adopt it.
    2) It's a new new revenue stream
    3) Profits
    4) Profits
    5) Profits

    Simple as that.
     
  20. dreadlk

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    Pretty much I know I am wasting my time on this whole issue, most people have no idea how Mega industries work in regards to Money, profit etc. and how that drive's decisions. Most people believed, oh yes I know their driven by profit, but in truth most people have a limited imagination to how it all works, which IMO is a good thing that most of us dont think like big companies.

    Yes for those of you who want to believe, 3D is all about making your movie experience more pleasant. ;)
     
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