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Article on Mike White, CEO of DIRECTV...authentication, 3D, TV Everywhere

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Satelliteracer, Jul 26, 2010.

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  1. Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    Did a quick cursory search for a poll over the last year .. couldn't find one so started a new one ..

    Here you go: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=181844

    Let's put that 95% number to the test ..
     
  2. hdtvfan0001

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    While there is some truth there....

    ....others of us with decades of Fortune 500 corporate firsthand experience do know just how "things work" in "mega industries". ;)
     
  3. sigma1914

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    If 3D is to stop piracy, then why are 3D films still shown in 2D? That keeps piracy as an easy option.

    Also, CAM titles are not the big deal for bootleg vendors. The screener versions are what bootleggers typically sell. They have better A/V.
     
  4. RAD

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    Gee, if someone wanted to use a camcorder to record a 3D movie for pirate purposes wouldn't all they need to do us use only one lens from the glasses and put it over the lense? You lose the 3D effect but you still get a recording of the movie.
     
  5. dreadlk

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    Copying 3D BluRays, no problem, but doing it with a Hand Held Camera which is the Number one Money leecher for the Industry is a completely different thing. It's literaly impossible, since your copying a stereo scopic image in an uncontrolled environment. Also the main point is that the Audience who are paying to watch this $1 version are not watching it in 3D, they are watching it in 2D so they see all the Red and Blue Blurs, making it unwatchable. BTW if they try to watch it in 3D with Glasses they get an even worst Picture. You have no idea how many pairs of 3D glasses were stolen during Avatar, world wide. People though they could use the glasses to watch Cam versions of movies to come.

    My Job requires me to Travel a lot, and I see "For Sale" in many coutries a CAM copy of a movie the day after it's released in the US Theaters, I am talking store fronts that display the Movie one day after theaters release it and people are lined up to buy these horrible copies. But what we do know is that the people will not buy 3D CAM's because the image quality is so bad that it cannot be sold, so a Win in that regard. Theaters in most countries are seeing massive gains on 3D movies versus 2D simply because the CAM versions don't exist but they also note customers are complaining and numbers are dropping on B rated movies done in 3D.
     
  6. hdtvfan0001

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    Just to clarify....the 3D piracy conspiracy discussion generally center around the bootlegged video camera avoidance, not the media version. As stated earlier, thinking media can be protected in this day and age is Ostrich head in the sand thinking.
     
  7. dreadlk

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    You’re not seeing that done much anymore, for that very reason. Of course nothing is written in stone, you have competing companies with different strategies etc. I am only talking about the General trend so there are always exceptions.

    Screener versions only hurt DVD sales, they don’t hurt theater sales, by time a screener comes out the theater sales are mostly done. DVD sales worldwide are very low in most countries, the USA is one of the few countries were people buy so many Legit Blurays and DVD's
    There have been rare instances of screeners or pre production films slipping out like the Famous X-Men Origins fiasco and the LOTR debacle but over all that’s a company slip up and not an overall problem.

    Anyway got to run, last post for the Day,.
     
  8. dreadlk

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    No wont work.
     
  9. Satelliteracer

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    Incidentally, Panasonic just introduced a 3D video camera for the general public. I don't know if 3D is here to stay or go, but I think it has some cool applications in sports especially. Way to early to tell.
     
  10. BudShark

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    Wow... just ummm... wow.

    So, Mr. Industry insider who knows all... please tell us...

    For this "vision" to be fact, and all content in theaters to move to 3D in order to avoid camcorder recordings of a movie being sold in Thailand...

    Exactly what is the timetable that all theaters, movies, production work, and equipment will be moved to 3D, and no 2D movies will be shown allowing this leaching of money to continue occurring?

    1 year? 3 years? 10 years? well it can't be 10 years, because we all know technology moves too fast. Can't be 5 years... because thats a stretch for both costs of conversion and it gives technology a chance to catch up... and surely, you aren't suggesting that 100% of movie theaters in the world will be converted to digital 3D ONLY within the next 3-5 years are you?

    And.. by chance, you aren't suggesting its in the 5-10 year timeframe and the whole industry has conspired to accomplish, please PM me so I can give you my personal number so I can tell these insiders what idiots they are for banking their future on stopping piracy by going 3-D within 5-10 years at all movie theaters in the world... :rolleyes:

    Wow... just wow...

    3-D = money. Period. Its a way to attract people to the theaters. Its a way to get you to pay $10-$12 for a ticket instead of $8-$10. It'll be a way to have a major release on IMAX 3-D for 2 weeks before general release so they can milk more $$$. There is 0 evidence that its to stop piracy. And to even suggest it ignores the fact that if it was true, you'd have to convert 100% of movie theaters to 3-D in order to avoid the camcorder copies... AND there are still theaters in use today that don't have Dolby Digital sound and Digital video capabilities... :nono:

    If you don't mind - please provide a shred of evidence showing that digital camcorder copies of 2-D movies are the #1 money leacher and problem for the movie industry please...
     
  11. wilbur_the_goose

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    Back to post #1, and Mr. White's interview....

    Really, all I want from D* is quality of TV programming. Sure I want more HD, but keep up the quality, and I'll be happy.

    (OK - and I'd hire a more lax legal team so they don't blackout as aggressively as they do)
     
  12. hdtvfan0001

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    Yup - and I just know I've read those very same points someplace before in this thread...hmmmm...oh yeah....now I remember.... :lol:
     
  13. BudShark

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    :D Some things bear repeating:

    D12 will be fine :)lol:)
    400 movies, NOT channels :grin:
    3D = MONEY :D

    I'm sure there's some more...
     
  14. Tom Robertson

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    Seems like a lot of ... well... passion in your post... :)

    You don't make it clear which part you think is blunder (or both) and which parts are just rants. :)

    So one bit at a time.

    PPV: You might not want it but it makes a lot of money for DIRECTV and the studios. So much that DIRECTV spends its bandwidth capital on it. Very simple equation.

    3D: The holy grail of the movies since... forever. Ok, maybe they wanted sound and color first--except there were those B&W 3D movies... Hmm... I don't think the drive was the anti-copy movement all those years... :D

    Now, I do not discount your theory that is has some benefits to slow piracy--for movies that are only shown in 3D and never in 2D... Wait... ain't none yet. :)

    What is known is that 3D does bring in lots of money for everyone...

    Yet, I know of a brand new theatre nearby that did not purchase 3D projectors. They are only 2D. (Modern 3D projectors cost a bunch more...)

    So where did DIRECTV "blunder?" PPV? Making lots of money for them. Guess not.

    3D? Bit early to tell, but sports could be very interesting. Definitely we're watching early adoption. Because of some cool technology, we're finally seeing 3D being nearly as easy to produce as 2D. So now we can see if it catches on... My bet--it will. :)

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  15. Doug Brott

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    Here's some real world numbers to dispute the 95% assertion.
     
  16. Hoosier205

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    I would also wager that the average joe customer is more likely to utilize PPV than our average member here.
     
  17. spartanstew

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    I'd concur, but don't think it's close to 95%.
     
  18. Earl Bonovich

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    That is very much an understatement.
    PPV is still a very popular and utilized system.
     
  19. sigma1914

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    Earl,
    Are there any numbers you could share with us regarding PPV?
     
  20. Earl Bonovich

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    Not if I want to keep my job...

    All I can say, is that PPV is still used by a larger portion of the customer base, then most are theorizing that it is.
     
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