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Ask Dbstalk:pip In Hd Mode

Discussion in 'Other HD Receiver Support Forum (811, 921, 942)' started by Eagles, Apr 9, 2004.

  1. Eagles

    Eagles Godfather/Supporter DBSTalk Gold Club

    Dec 31, 2003
    Is there any possibility through future software upgrades that PIP will be available in HD mode? If not, why is this feature not a reality? !pride
  2. Slordak

    Slordak Hall Of Fame

    Dec 17, 2003
    It requires a great deal of computational power to do an HD video decode (and then render the decoded frames to the screen). Hence, it is likely that this pretty much exhausts the resources available to the 921, and thus it cannot simultaneously run another video decode. It can always record another channel to disk, since this requires no decoding (i.e. the MPEG2 data is written in its original state to the hard disk), but actually watching an HD channel and another channel at the same time is probably not going to be possible.

    For comparison purposes, take a PC which just barely has enough CPU and/or memory to play a single DVD movie. While it's playing that movie, start playing another (different) DVD movie. The results will not be pleasant.
  3. Mark Lamutt

    Mark Lamutt Your Neighborhood Liasion

    Mar 23, 2002
    This isn't possible due to hardware limitations.
  4. DonLandis

    DonLandis Hall Of Fame

    Dec 17, 2003
    In fact, the original 921 prototype displayed at CES2003 had this HD PIP feature activated but there were many problems with it. The only PIP that came close to working was the 1080i in 1080i and that was with much stuttering with lots of lost frames. The main issue was the mixing of HD scan rates such as 720P and 1080i. Although I know this could be resolved technically with an HD Frame store and scan converter even with frame delay but the cost factor would not be pretty. Bottom line- mixing simple 480i with 480i is easy and low cost but the myriad of Digital ATSC formats in PIP would be a real hardware nightmare and extremely costly.
  5. jsanders

    jsanders Hall Of Fame

    Jan 21, 2004
    My TV seemed to be able to do it when I connected the 6000 and 921 both to it. They were both 1080i signals though.... The 921 sort of does it with the preview window when viewing the guide or the DVR menu, however, it is only decompressing one signal when doing that. You would think it would be able to do a PIP with one combination of SD and HD channels. HD and HD seems like it would be difficult from what was just mentioned and decompressing two HD channels. SD and SD works. Seems like SD and HD, and HD and SD should be plausable though.

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