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At a FIOS household for 2 days, will report opinions

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by ciurca, Nov 26, 2009.

  1. Nov 26, 2009 #1 of 129

    ciurca Godfather

    Apr 14, 2009
    Well, the only advantage I can tell so far is the speed of channel changing. I haven't played with the MRV yet, but I will eventually.

    I am very envious of the 20/5 mbps internet. The one thing I miss about Comcast is the good bandwidth. After switching to D* last April, I had to give up my cable modem, didn't want to pay the non tv service price. 3.0 dsl is brutal.


    Observation 1. Picture quality is no better.

    Observation 2. SD and HD channels being so different is annoying. I love the hide SD channels option.

    Observation 3. Although they have MRV, the client STB's cannont FF or RW while playing off the server STB. This is just my limited experience and hearsay from my brother in law (his house)
  2. Nov 26, 2009 #2 of 129

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

    Nov 15, 2005
    Seattle, WA
    Hah. I had to go to 1.5 DSL when I dropped compcast. But it is still very worth it!
  3. Nov 26, 2009 #3 of 129

    Wisegoat Icon

    Aug 16, 2006
    Why did you guys drop cable internet?

    I pay TimeWarner $56.95 per month and that price is with or without TV service. I get 15 meg down, 2 up. Far better value than $46.95/mo for 3 meg DSL. And I don't have to purchase land line service.
  4. Nov 26, 2009 #4 of 129

    HoTat2 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 16, 2005
    Have TWI Road Runner internet only service here as well in South L.A. for approx. ~$43.00/mo. According to Speakeasy getting about 12-13 mb/s on the down and around 722 kb/s on the up right now.

    Can't match FiOS internet of course, but is certainly better than the AT&T DSL rates around here which are lower for the same or higher prices.
  5. Nov 26, 2009 #5 of 129

    ciurca Godfather

    Apr 14, 2009
    Have dry loop DSL....which means no voice line, for $24.99 month. I was paying $33 for Comcast, which was the 1 year intro price. W/O tv it goes to like $58. Normal price w/ tv is around $45.
  6. Nov 26, 2009 #6 of 129
    The Merg

    The Merg 1*

    Jun 24, 2007
    Northern VA
    Comcast is expensive. I have Internet and Phone with that and it runs $95/month. A lot more than I would like to pay ($42.95 Internet, $44.95 phone, $3 modem rental, + fees). Although, I am very happy with the speed and the phone service.

    Hoping that when FIOS is available, I can get faster Internet plus phone service for less.

    - Merg
  7. Nov 26, 2009 #7 of 129

    JoeTheDragon Hall Of Fame

    Jul 21, 2008
    Fios makes you pay $16/m per HD DVR up to 20 hrs. of HD content., Home Media HD DVR $20/m up to 20 hrs. of HD content.

    HD box $10/m each.
  8. Nov 26, 2009 #8 of 129
    Scott Kocourek

    Scott Kocourek Well-Known Member

    Jun 13, 2009
    Wow, a whole 20 hours?
  9. Nov 26, 2009 #9 of 129

    itguy05 Legend

    Oct 24, 2007
    It is very nice. :)

    It should be. We just got FIOS the other week and the HD is a hair better on our 50", the SD is light years better on the 50" and the 30".

    It is a little annoying but the FIOS guy told us a little trick - HD is in the 500s. I just start the search there!

    You should also mention the boxes are light years faster and more responsive than the DTV HRxx series. So much so there's no comparison.

    I've also noticed almost no glitches in lip sync, picture breakups, or audio things that happened quite regularly on DTV. (Yes I did have good signal strength.)

    The online access to your DVR and setting up recordings/deleting them and management blows DirecTV's out of the water. There is no comparison. And no reason DTV can't have this as an option for their HR series that are networked.

    Vs $199/99 for an HD or SD DVR + 2 year commitment?

    Let's just say this.... I had with DTV 1 HR22, 1-R20 (SD DVR) and FIOS Internet.

    With FIOS TV + Internet I get more HD and more channels, 2x HD-DVR's, 1x Digital media adapter for about $6 less than I was paying DirecTV + Verizon. And I've got a price protection for 2 years + a $150 Visa card coming.

    The less content thing does suck but it's been manageable for us as we don't use our DVR's for long term storage.

    Best thing is for everyone to evaluate the deals available. For those that can get FIOS so far it's tough to beat.
  10. Nov 26, 2009 #10 of 129

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    Sep 5, 2006
    Allen, TX
    FIOS = No NFL-ST+SF ...Barely any HD on NBA-LP, MLB-EI, or NHL-CI

    No thanks. ;)
  11. Nov 26, 2009 #11 of 129

    itguy05 Legend

    Oct 24, 2007
    :) Not a sports fan so I could care less about any of that. :)
  12. Nov 26, 2009 #12 of 129

    ejjames Icon

    Oct 2, 2006
    "Boys, boys...I'm going to turn this car around!"
  13. Nov 26, 2009 #13 of 129

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

    Nov 15, 2005
    Seattle, WA
    1. Cost. Without phone or TV, had to pay an extra $10 a month and that just irritated me. My DSL line is costing me exactly half of what Comcast cost me. I don't do games, and I don't download massive quantities of anything, so the DSL is acceptable.

    2. Reliability (lack thereof). My neighborhood has had recurring problems over several years. They get it fixed for a little while, then it goes bad again. Half my neighbors tolerate it, half have gone to DSL or Clearwire.
  14. Nov 27, 2009 #14 of 129

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    I was at my sister's today who has Fios. I don't remember any artifacting before today when I visited her before but there was a ton on today's football games and on the Michigan basketball game on ESPN.

    She doesn't have the DVR option turned on, so no opinion on that. The box is faster but some of the stuff is horrible (search is really bad...doesn't show titles but descriptions).

    A lot more channels in HD (most of which she does not have as she has no movie premiums).

    I prefer DirecTV because of the sports but I was surprised at the artifacting. ESPN looked worse than the MPEG2 version on DirecTV and the locals were just plain bad.
  15. Nov 27, 2009 #15 of 129

    HerntDawg Legend

    Oct 6, 2008
    comcrap just uped my bill to 64.95 a month for just internet. i think cheaper may be better.
  16. Nov 27, 2009 #16 of 129

    braven Hall Of Fame

    Apr 9, 2007
    So if I switch to FIOS how much do they charge for the NFLST? Just wondering.
  17. Nov 27, 2009 #17 of 129

    kevinturcotte Active Member

    Dec 19, 2006
    20 hours of storage? That's beyond laughable! I dropped a 750 GB drive in my HR20, and it's probably going to be time to upgrade to a 1.5 TB after Christmas (If it lasts that long :( )!
    Don't they also have that "Only 1 HD channel at a time, no matter how many HD receivers you have" problem? There are times I'm recording 4 HD channels, and watching a 5th here.
  18. Nov 27, 2009 #18 of 129

    Glen_D Legend

    Oct 21, 2006
    I'm not aware of that being a limitation with FIOS (not available in my area), but AT&T's U-verse (which IS available in my area) currently allows only 1 or 2 HD streams at a time, depending on your location. This is a deal-killer for many people with multiple HD TVs & family members in their household. Future system upgrades are supposed to permit additional HD streams.

    FIOS is fiber all the way to the home, while U-verse is fiber to the node. Most pundits consider FIOS to be vastly superior to U-verse, particularly the HD service.
  19. Nov 27, 2009 #19 of 129

    TBlazer07 Large Member DBSTalk Club

    Feb 5, 2009
  20. Nov 27, 2009 #20 of 129

    Steve Well-Known Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    My mom, son and sister all have FiOSTV and love it. Except for the 20 hour HD storage capacity limit and lack of NFLST, they have a pretty compelling offering. MRV works great, though limited to 3 viewing locations (one DVR with 2 tuners feeding 2 set top boxes.)

    SD and HD are the network's raw feeds, delivered unmodified, so it's the best PQ you can possibly get. In case it matters, FiOS SD when viewed on a larger screen (42" and above) is much better than DirecTV's, IMO, but they're comparable on older 4:3 displays.

    FiOS DVR's offer many user configuration options I'd like to see on my HR2x's. Among them are user-configurable SKIP and REPLAY times, ability to disable picture in guide, ability to specify which time slot or channel to record for a SL, dynamic range control for audio and default GUIDE size (full or half). The feature I like best is remote web access to the DVR. You have the same search capability and ability to schedule SL's or individual recordings remotely as you do locally, and you can you can remotely access the TODO or PLAY lists to delete recordings, scheduled recordings or SL's.

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