AT&T to offer streaming version of DirecTV

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  1. Mar 9, 2019 #1 of 271
    Athlon646464

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    Same packages for the same pricing... :eek:

    From a blog here:

    "AT&T will be selling a 65+ channel streaming version of DIRECTV for $93 a month, an 85+ version of DIRECTV for $110 a month, a 105+ channel version of DIRECTV for $124, and a 125+ channel version of DIRECTV for $135 a month streaming online."
     
  2. Mar 9, 2019 #2 of 271
    lparsons21

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    And also raising DirecTV Now by $10/month.
    Interesting. They reported subscriber losses recently so the fix is to raise prices. This just supports my contention that cable/sat will suffer for awhile, but if they hang in there, will survive quite well.



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  3. Mar 9, 2019 #3 of 271
    James Long

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    It is good to finally see some movement on this long awaited product offering. I look forward to an official release.
     
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  4. Mar 9, 2019 #4 of 271
    Athlon646464

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    Same here. I have questions about 'DVR' service and 4K with the streaming version, especially if the pricing will essentially be the same.
     
  5. Mar 9, 2019 #5 of 271
    compnurd

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    The pricing being the same is a shock and not surprised. Shock because they stated it would be cheaper because no dish or tech was needed. Not surprised because they are obviously trying to make more money on it. As stated the dvr ability and 4K will dictate if I switch
     
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    James Long

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    Streaming technology is expensive. At best AT&T is trading installs and truck rolls for server capacity and bandwidth in their content delivery network. Since the industry doesn't report subscriber acquisition costs for streaming it is hard to put an exact cost difference between signing up a satellite customer and signing up a streaming customer. But most of the ongoing costs to the customers is simply fees passed on from the content providers. The remainder pays for the network ... whether it is satellites in the sky or content delivery via the Interenet.
     
  7. Mar 9, 2019 #7 of 271
    SledgeHammer

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    What are you talking about? That's not the same price. That's a lot more. Preferred Xtra is about $115 or so and its close to 200 channels.
     
  8. Mar 9, 2019 #8 of 271
    GordonGekko

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    Serious question, what is the benefit for you to switch, is it just not having the satellite on the roof and less wires? How high of a download speed would one need, forget about anything else, strictly for Directv over the internet with 2 tv's on at the same time?
     
  9. Mar 9, 2019 #9 of 271
    compnurd

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    I have 400 down. So not worried at all having 10-20 boxes in the house.

    If I had to guess a 1080p stream may be 10-15mbps tops. Anything higher would be a awesome

    The biggest reason may be fees. Between the advanced receiver fees and mirroring I pay 60 bucks. So the biggest question will be how they handle dvr and multiple streams. If I can buy 6 boxes and not pay a fee for each stream. Instant savings
     
  10. Mar 9, 2019 #10 of 271
    Athlon646464

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    I was just quoting the blogger.

    When looking at the current satellite package pricing, it's difficult to match what he said in the article for sure. For example, the non-promotion price for 235+ channels is $124 per month (XTRA). The non-promotional price for everything (330+ channels) is $189 per month.

    And these are just the fees for channels. The boxes, HD, Whole Home etc. not included.

    Of course, neither of these prices include taxes and fees.
     
  11. Mar 9, 2019 #11 of 271
    compnurd

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    That site is known for a lot of click bait and bad info. The truth is somewhere in the middle
     
  12. Mar 9, 2019 #12 of 271
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    A lot of money for the same old s***
    Till the content providers get the point that they charge to much the price of all services will keep going up.
     
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    The forthcoming streaming version of DTV will almost certainly use a new box -- model C71 -- that's been in beta testing now for a few months. That box supports HEVC/H.265, which is a newer, more efficient form of video encoding than what DTV satellite uses (which is H.264). My guess is that a live streaming channel in 1080p, encoded in HEVC/H.265, delivered to the C71 would only require somewhere around 5 to 8 Mbps at maximum quality. If your internet connection has a download speed of 15 Mbps or greater, you'd probably be fine for watching on two TVs simultaneously. If your speed is 20 Mbps or higher, I'm sure you'd be fine. Also, if your speed wasn't fast enough to support two simultaneous streams in 1080p, then AT&T's servers would just automatically adjust you down to 720p streams instead.
     
  14. Mar 9, 2019 #14 of 271
    NashGuy

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    Yeah. I notice that the prices he quotes in the blog article do match the current regular prices for several DTV satellite packages (which include service and equipment fees for one HD DVR):

    $93 -- This is the price for Entertainment, but it now includes 160+ channels, not 65+ as he states.
    $110 -- This is the price for Choice, but it now includes 185+ channels, not 85+ as he states.
    $124 -- This is the price for Xtra, but it now includes 235+ channels, not 105+ as he states.
    $135 -- This is the price for Ultimate, but it now includes 250+ channels, not 125+ as he states.

    Obviously, he's got his info wrong somewhere or another. Perhaps the channel numbers he's stating are all off by 100. Add 100 channels to each of his figures and you get close to where DTV's channel packages currently stand.
     
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    James Long

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    Perhaps the blogger's plus sign is bigger? This is one reason why I am looking forward to an official announcement of plans and content.

    DIRECTV NOW as listed on their website is 65+ channels for $40. Add $10 to get 65+ channels for $50. The article states DIRECTV NOW Plus with 40+ channels for $50 a month and DIRECTV NOW MAX with 50+ channels for $70. That contradiction should also be worked out by getting an official announcement.
     
  16. Mar 9, 2019 #16 of 271
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    I wouldn't be at all surprised if the pricing is the same. Why should the pricing be lower, when the cost of content and cost of delivery aren't any lower?

    The savings over satellite come from:

    1) cheaper to install, because it is self-install vs. having a guy come to your house to install
    2) no Genie, so presumably no $15/month advanced receiver fee

    Cable/satellite have some taxes that streaming is (so far) immune from, so maybe it comes in $20/month cheaper on "list" pricing.

    If anyone was thinking it would be priced like Directv Now, I don't know what you've been smoking. They lose money on Directv Now, and are planning to raise the price to make it (slightly) profitable. Given that Directv satellite is pretty profitable, coming in with an alternative that's basically identical that costs way less would be stupid - they are in business to make money, not to maximize subscribers.
     
  17. Mar 9, 2019 #17 of 271
    SledgeHammer

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    Hi! Welcome to DirecTV! Is today your first day? :).

    This is DirecTV we're talking about, you're forgetting about all the umm... creative fees they'll come up with:

    * per stream fee
    * bandwidth fee
    * cloud dvr fee (they'll have storage tiers based on capacity)
    * cloud dvr access fee (you'll want to be able to access your cloud dvr, right?!?!)
    * regional sports fee
    * logon fee
    * regional fee fee (see what I did there? :) )
    * CAT5e fee
    * CAT6 fee
    * network fee
    * cloud dvr backup fee
    * and last but not least, the "we couldn't think of a good name for it, so we'll just call it the" fee fee.
     
  18. Mar 9, 2019 #18 of 271
    Athlon646464

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    You left out the Fee Fi Fo Fum Fee. :D
     
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  19. Mar 9, 2019 #19 of 271
    slice1900

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    Buy what boxes? Directv charges you the same fee whether you own your receiver or not, if they let you buy the C71s instead of rent them why do you think the per receiver fees would be free.

    At best you might be able to pay for say 3 active streams and have 6 receivers, and if you try to turn on a fourth it will tell you to turn off one of the other three before it will let you use it.

    I really think people expecting this to be a big savings over satellite are going to be disappointed and whine a lot about it when the full pricing info is released :D
     
  20. Mar 9, 2019 #20 of 271
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    Coincidentally on March 5 I received an email from Directv with a long survey about my streaming habits, and my opinion on the features and quality of the Directv App. Timely because on March 4 they killed Out of Home streaming from the local DVR, for local and some sports channels. I let them have it.

    But the questions were very specific about what I look for in streaming, comparisons to Netflix and Amazon and DTV Now.

    So they are up to something.
     

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