AT&T TV Cities Now Listed on ATT Site

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  1. Aug 29, 2019 #81 of 130
    lparsons21

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    As Nashguy noted, dropping subscription costs by 50% just isn’t doable as margins are a bit thin. Regardless of anything else, the primary pusher of subscription prices is the cost of cable/sat for channels. That is nearly all on the content producers.

    As you, I enjoy the simplicity and ease of traditional cable/sat vice the streaming services. As Nashguy noted Apple has done quite a bit to make that less daunting and will improve with time.

    For all the talk about how much you can save with streaming the real bottom line is you have to be willing to have less to do it. Of course, if giving up some not so used channels and the few programs you liked isn’t an issue, then it makes sense.

    I’ve spent a couple hours today diddling the numbers of various ways to get what I would want via streaming. My cable bill would drop $97/month if I dropped TV with them so the goal was to see what I could do with something less than that. Closest I could get to doing it was by only having one premium channel live in any given month. And it wasn’t really much of a savings then. And it required me to manage premium channel subscriptions and have more than one cable/sat replacement type service to do.

    So until the numbers change or the cableTV/sat industry die off I’ll probably stay with cable. Love my TiVo’s and they are amortized off and all have lifetime service.


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  2. Aug 29, 2019 #82 of 130
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    I saw an article earlier this year that content costs as a percentage of revenue for cable carriers they had figures for (Comcast was one) were in the mid 50s at the start of the decade but were now moving into the high 60s. As a result cable companies were increasing relying on internet service, which has higher margins, to make up for the shrinking profit from TV.

    If you add in all the other costs for employees, infrastructure and so forth they don't have room to lower their prices much at all. Directv (considered alone rather than as part of AT&T) and Dish don't have internet services delivered over common infrastructure like cable does - at least there if something needs fixing or upgrading or maintaining that cost can be attributed to both TV and internet. For Directv or Dish all their costs are 100% attributable to TV so they have even less room to maneuver than cable.
     
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    I think streaming is a lot simpler than D* or cable. Takes a bit of time to get used to that.

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  4. Aug 30, 2019 #84 of 130
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    Has anyone found out if this new service has PPV? I couldn’t seem to find that anywhere. Maybe it’s just not in the beta roll out but if it’s gonna be equal to directv it’s gonna need PPV. :). Maybe I missed it but couldn’t find that anywhere.
     
  5. Aug 30, 2019 #85 of 130
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    Why? if you have a streaming box those movies are available in a number of apps
     
  6. Aug 30, 2019 #86 of 130
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    So AT&T TV is primarily intended to be consumed via the streaming box that comes with it. And that box runs a customized version of Google's Android TV. As such, the box comes pre-installed with certain Google apps, including Google Play Movies &
    TV. That app lets you rent and purchase movies and also purchase TV shows (by the episode or entire season). Renting a movie is the same thing as PPV -- a streaming rental typically gives you about a month to begin watching and then once you do start watching you have anywhere from 24 to 48 hours (depending on title/service) to finish, and you can watch it as many times as you want, on any device that features that app, during that 24-48 hours window.

    What I'm getting to is this: Google may not allow AT&T TV to include their own built-in movie rental service in the main UI since that would preclude lots of folks from using Google Play Movies & TV. So that might be why AT&T TV doesn't have a PPV option, at least yet.

    Still though, there are big-ticket PPV live sports events like boxing, etc. that are always offered on cable operators' own platforms that are never sold through Google Play Movies & TV. So I would at least expect that kind of stuff to show up as an option inside AT&T TV (and maybe AT&T TV Now as well).
     
  7. Aug 30, 2019 #87 of 130
    NashGuy

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    This is true, but it works both ways: there's a lot of content on Netflix, and to lesser extents (for now) Amazon Prime Video, Hulu, and the upcoming Disney+ and Apple TV+, that are ONLY available via streaming but not via any cable channel.

    So if you really want access to everything, it's not a choice of cable channels vs. streaming; you have to have both!
     
  8. Aug 30, 2019 #88 of 130
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    After subtracting the differences between DTV and AT&T TV after that 1 year Internet discount expires and would only save $1 with AT&T TV. I think now that if these are the same pricing when they launch AT&T TV nationally that they only did AT&T TV to save AT&T DTV installation costs. The only thing with AT&T TV is not gong out in bad weather. But with AT&T TV you could have a cut fiber line and downed telephone poll. I think in order for AT&T TV to be successful they should keep the first year pricing permanent.
     
  9. Aug 30, 2019 #89 of 130
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    Wouldn’t new release movie rentals be another source of revenue for AT&T TV? I read that the reason they choose the Android TV Operators Tier was so AT&T TV didn’t have to give Apple or Roku a cut of the new release movie rentals. Also you wouldn’t have to switch between APPS to rent new release movies.
     
  10. Aug 30, 2019 #90 of 130
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    I didnt need the lecture explanation and speculation(again) as to what ATT is doing. I thought my answer was pretty straight forward
     
  11. Aug 30, 2019 #91 of 130
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    True, and that’s what I have. In addition to my cable sub I have Netflix, Amazon Prime, CBS All Access, Disney+, Epix and Hulu. Amazon Prime is essentially free since I use Amazon for shopping a lot. Both Hulu and CBS are the cheapest ad-supported levels as I don’t watch them as much as the others. Apple+ may join the fray depending on the content and price, though if the $9.99/month figure being floated is right it will be for binge watching a couple times a year and cancelling. And I also use some of the free ad-supported ones too.

    For me shuffling to all streaming could be fun as I’m kind of a gear head, but not if it isn’t going to save me a couple bucks too.


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  12. Aug 30, 2019 #92 of 130
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    Boy I sure don’t agree with that yet! Multiple services all with their own UI designs makes it a bit of a PITA IMO. Apple’s TV app on the AppleTV is a step in the right direction, hopefully more services will get on board.


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  13. Aug 30, 2019 #93 of 130
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    I didn't mean that they could reduce cost by 50% what I meant if the price was less than subscribing to several streaming services would people drop traditional services and go to streaming.
    Of course as more and more stuff only will appear on streaming service the costs becomes secondary. It is just that so many say they cut cord because of cost.
     
  14. Aug 30, 2019 #94 of 130
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    Took me years to get used to streaming...still learning. Yeah, be nice if the apps were all the same but it is what it is. None of the apps are as good as the Netflix app, I think. We do spend most of our time on NF.

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    I think most folks want to save money. That's natural. You can save a lot of money if you're diligent about taking apps you're not using off your streamer. I'm not. I like the ability to jump from one app to another, kinda like changing channels using D*.

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  16. Aug 30, 2019 #96 of 130
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    I find myself on Amazon Prime more often than not. NF’s UI and Amazon’s are similarly sucky IMO!
    Signed up for a one-month trial of Sling Blue as it has the channels I would want and it is cheap. Thought about the Blue+Orange since Freeform is in Orange, but then Freeform’s programming is on Hulu so why bother for so few shows on that channel. Sling’s UI isn’t bad at all. IMO, they are the value proposition for cable/sat replacement service if the channels you want are on there. Downside is rather small ‘dvr’ function at extra cost ($5 for 50 hours), but I’ve not been doing much in the way of DVR except for delayed watching. Used to save movie recordings, but the reality was that I seldom ever go back and watch them again.
    Ordered an outdoor antenna for my locals and I can use my Tivo Bolt for that. I’ll need to get a handyman to install is on the mount my Dish’s dish is on. I don’t do ladders anymore!! :)
    Looked at Hulu Live, Philo, FuboTV and YouTube TV. All are higher with more channels, but not more of what I would watch.



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  17. Aug 31, 2019 #97 of 130
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    Biggest and best step you can take is dropping linear TV from your habit. I know it's hard to do but...

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    While I am fiddling with all of this, the costs still are too close to each other to make switching from linear to ip all that important. Sling Blue actually does a pretty good job of covering the 9 cable type channels I watch with any regularity. PQ is OK but certainly not the best I’ve seen. Audio is irritating though! Just stereo on live ‘channels’, VOD has 5.1. And of course ad skipping when there, isn’t as seamless as it is on my Tivo.

    BTW, Sling has a one-month trial going on now for 40% off if you’re interested.



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  19. Aug 31, 2019 #99 of 130
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    That would be an advantage AT&T TV has over the other streaming services doesn’t AT&T TV have Dolby 5.1 on all their channels?
     
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    I think so but their cheapest lineup that has almost all of the channels I would want is $93 vs $25 from Sling. That’s a huge difference! And a consideration is that the shows that I want from the 9 channels aren’t really great sound oriented anyway. So while they would sound better with ATT the question has to be “do they sound $68/month better?” :)


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