AT&T TV Cities Now Listed on ATT Site

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  1. raott

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    They'll have to adjust....from the carriers to the content providers....the entire market is evolving and will continue to evolve. Carriers that stupidly think they can slap on a two year contract and charge what they want, and they will still come, are in for a rude awakening and will continue to shed customers.

    AT&T has zero business slapping a two year contract on that service...none. It is DOA.

     
  2. NashGuy

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    I don't really care.
     
  3. NashGuy

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    Yeah, if they continue to require a 2-year contract for AT&T TV, it's in for a long, hard slog trying to build up a user base, I think. A 1-year contract is far more tolerable, I think. If you're signing up for AT&T Internet/Fiber at the same time, you're having to do a 1-year contract for that anyhow.
     
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    If you didn’t you would not have replied
     
  5. CraigerM

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    Now that I think about it, I am not sure why they modeled AT&T TV after cable TV and AT&T would think doing AT&T TV would prevent people from leaving to do cord cutting? UVerseTV is cable TV and it only had 6 million customers before they bought DTV. Should AT&T TV have just continued DTV Now the way it was before and rebranded it to AT&T TV and not AT&T TV Now and the original packages? Then say AT&T TV is not DTV no dish required? Plus you can use the AT&T TV APP on any device? AT&at could still have done their own with channel numbers. I read an article that said DTV Now was growing until they messed with the pricing. Not sure if AT&T TV would make it if a lot of people think of it as an Internet streaming service and not cable TV with AT&T TV’s normal pricing after the first year pricing discount expires. I hope it succeeds but not sure it will. We haven’t even seen any reviews for it yet.
     
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  6. TDK1044

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    AT&T TV will fit the profile of our home nicely. We're old farts who've been with D* for over 20 years, and we have AT&T internet and cell phones. We'll look at it about a year from now when it's been fully tested. :)
     
  7. Sep 1, 2019 #107 of 130
    Kuclas

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    So basically the new att tv that launched in select cities is similar to the Apple TV (spectrum app?) where all the channels and one demand are tightly configured.

    I can just speak to Siri (watch espn) and it loads live espn from the spectrum Apple TV app?

    The one major weakness of spectrum tv streaming tv app is it has no dvr or access to dvr (so I still have to pay for one $15 dvr box) which I can only watch dvr shows on that specific Tv. The other weakness of spectrum Tv is I lose a lot of channels once I’m “outside” my home network

    So the att tv new tv allows streaming ALL the channels in your home plus access ur dvr from outside your home?

    And the price (with att fiber bundle ) will be roughly $150-170?

    I cannot use spectrum tv app (roku tv, Samsung tv, Apple TV) unless I bundle spectrum internet or else spectrum knows I can share my account with others for them to access outside my home all the same channels.
     
  8. Sep 1, 2019 #108 of 130
    riprecked

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    I was a DirectTV customer since they started. Moved two months ago and dropped it. I’m now using YouTube TV for $50 a month. I do not miss DirectTV at all. Yes, I lose the Sunday Ticket but everything else is so much better. No boxes, dishes, special cabling, and rain fade.

    How AT&T thinks this service has a prayer is beyond me. The PQ on YouTube TV is excellent, DVR awesome, and every TV and Apple TV I have supports it at no cost.

    No way the streaming services go to 24 month contracts. That ship has sailed.

    AT&T also has too many brands going on. They bought DirectTV and are doing everything they can to bury the brand.

    Wow
     
  9. Sep 1, 2019 #109 of 130
    NashGuy

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    The AT&T TV service comes with its own custom box with a voice remote that features the Google Assistant (basically, it's Google's version of Siri, except smarter). So you can press that button on the remote and tell it to turn to a certain channel, or ask what's on tonight, or ask about the weather, or ask it to launch a certain show in Netflix, and it'll do any of that.

    Yes, you'll get all the live channels in your package when you're at home. You should get all of them away from home too, although some live sports or other select events might be blacked out if viewing on a mobile phone, due to contractual specifics in the way that content providers treat viewing on mobile devices. All of the recordings on your cloud DVR should be available away from home, on any device, I think.

    Well, we don't know what the channel packages and bundle pricing might look like for AT&T TV when it rolls out nationwide.

    What I can tell you is this: in St. Louis, which is a pilot test city, right now you can sign up for a combination of AT&T TV plus AT&T Fiber/Internet and pay about $100/mo the first year, then the regular ongoing price of about $165/mo thereafter. That's a combo of 100 Mbps internet and the Choice TV package, which includes your locals, the most popular cable channels, plus your regional sports networks. All AT&T internet and TV equipment and programming fees are included. Taxes are extra.

    If you wanted to step down to the Entertainment TV package (lose your regional sports networks and a few other cable channels), the bundle price would be $90/mo the first year, then the regular price thereafter of $143/mo.

    Those prices let you watch on 3 screens at the same time, wherever you are. It comes with one TV streaming box that's specially customized for AT&T TV. If you want more, they cost $120 each, either paid up-front or spread out over 12 months at $10/mo. They're yours to keep and include apps for Netflix, YouTube, Hulu, etc. so you can watch all your TV on this one box, not just the AT&T TV service. But if you don't want to buy more boxes for your secondary TVs, you can likely instead use the AT&T TV app on your own Apple TV, Roku, or Fire TV device.

    You can subscribe to AT&T TV without also taking AT&T Fiber/Internet (it will work over any internet connection, as long as it's fast enough, probably at least 8 Mbps) but in the test cities, AT&T is knocking $20/mo off the combined price for TV+Internet the first year, then $10/mo indefinitely thereafter. Providers typically offer some kind of bundle discount like this.

    I also just noticed that AT&T is getting much more aggressive about offering promotional bonuses for new sign-ups in St. Louis. Signing up for a combo of AT&T Fiber and AT&T TV online now gets you a total of $400 in Visa Reward Cards! Wow. I'll take that over free NFL Sunday Ticket any day...
     
  10. Sep 1, 2019 #110 of 130
    slice1900

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    Are all the early sign up cities for AT&T TV ones where AT&T offers fiber?
     
  11. Sep 1, 2019 #111 of 130
    James Long

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    Why would they roll back prices? The new price scheme was introduced months ago for DIRECTV Now (which is now AT&T TV Now). While there is still hope that the Plus and Max packages will be offered on AT&T TV, why wouldn't they offer these as "introductory offers" in the test markets unless there was a long term plan NOT to offer them as part as AT&T TV?

    IF AT&T plans on offering Plus and Max they should be doing that NOW. Unless part of their test marketing is to see how much they can get away with annoying potential customers.
     
  12. Sep 2, 2019 #112 of 130
    Rich

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    Those problems would drive me nuts. How can you put up with that?

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  13. Sep 2, 2019 #113 of 130
    DirectMan

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    Nope. They are including Orange County in SoCal - the local provider is Cox and Charter. ATT is a no show for internet.
     
  14. Sep 2, 2019 #114 of 130
    DirectMan

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    I have been uncertain whether the boxes for ATT TV are owned or leased to the customer. I assumed at the onset that it would model the Roku / Firestick and be a sale so the customer would own the box especially since they are priced at $120/box with similar features to the Roku / Firestick (no hard disk). However, I am now of the opinion that the boxes are leased to the customer and remain the property of ATT. On the order cart the box charge is described as a "Device Service Fee" @$120 / box front end or $10 / month for 12 months for each box after the first (which is no charge).

    So in addition to a 24 month service agreement that you are locked into you have to pay for the equipment in which you have no ownership.

    Deceptive marketing in the service agreement commitment and equipment financing. It is a DOA package and I for one will be interested to learn what the takeup in the test markets after the quarterly results are announced.

    I have noticed an offer for $250 in reward cards (online only) that I do not believe was present when they commenced the test on August 19. Looks like they are starting to realize the lack of takeup in the test markets.
     
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  15. Sep 2, 2019 #115 of 130
    slice1900

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    If you don't own the boxes they have to say that somewhere in the customer agreement. They do for satellite, if they don't for AT&T TV then you own them. No one has pointed to anything that shows you don't own the boxes, so unless someone does we can continue to assume you own them.
     
  16. Sep 2, 2019 #116 of 130
    b4pjoe

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    If they were leased I don't think the monthly fee would stop after 12 months. And since you can buy them outright for $120 with no monthly fee points to you owning the box too. I have not heard though if the box is still usable as a generic streaming box with other streaming apps if you cancel AT&T TV at some point though.
     
  17. Sep 2, 2019 #117 of 130
    lparsons21

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    Since the cost to go streaming+OTA is so close to what I pay for cable with all the channels and premiums, I won’t put up with it.

    This is more of me twiddling with the idea. :)


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  18. Sep 2, 2019 #118 of 130
    Rich

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    Here's a thought. It's the end of summer. Could you live without linear TV for a month? And, during that month, immerse yourself in one streaming video service such as NF? One little month. Might be enough to get you to see what you can do without a subscription to Dish or D* or a cable provider. Just a trial...and if that works out well, you can save yourself some real money. Of course anyone can do this, but I'd get a kick out of you doing it. Let me put this simply: Aside from sports, you don't NEED linear TV. I don't use it and I don't miss it one bit. Break that paradigm.

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  19. Sep 2, 2019 #119 of 130
    Rich

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    That's being rational. ATT seems to do whatever it pleases and if they get enough people to buy into this thing they might well decide those monthly fees are gonna go on an on forever.

    Rich
     
  20. Sep 2, 2019 #120 of 130
    DirectMan

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    I looked for a customer agreement on the site but none was readily apparent. I did however review the warranty document on the box and it clearly states "purchase your ATT TV device" so that sounds like I am incorrect and it is a purchase not a lease. But how come no state sales tax is charged on the first or subsequent boxes. I know in California sales tax would clearly be due. Just because ATT calls it a device service fee does not negate the need to pay sales tax.
     

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