AT&T TV Launches Nationwide Feb. 2020

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  1. mjwagner

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    Maybe it’s just me but whenever I see services like this that are similar but with lots of “fine print”/“detailed” differentiation I just figure the service provider is trying to find a way to fool me/screw me...particularly when it’s AT&T....LOL.
     
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    Actually AT&T owns 4 RSNs the Northwest service still operates under the Root Sports brand because the Seattle Mariners own the majority 60% share while AT&T/WarnerMedia owns the remaining 40% and is the operator. AT&T SportsNet Southwest, Pittsburgh and Rocky Mountain are 100% owned by AT&T/WarnerMedia.

    It's possible that AT&T will sell their 4 RSNs just depends on how regional sports play into their content strategy plans since they are looking to sell "non-critical" assets to reduce their DirecTV/Time Warner debt load. Sinclair would probably be very interested in the 4 RSNs as they have local stations they either own or operate via LMA (or in AT&T SN Pittsburgh's case both) in most of those markets.
     
  3. NashGuy

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    Yes, I was aware of Root Sports Northwest, of which AT&T is the minority owner. Of the four markets where they have RSNs, Houston is the only one where AT&T Fiber is present. AT&T TV has the best shot of success in those places where it can be sold with AT&T Fiber, as the successor to Uverse TV. That's another reason why I think they'll decide that selling those few RSNs makes more sense than keeping them, especially given that Sinclair should be a motivated buyer.
     
  4. NashGuy

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    Interesting post over at Cord Cutters News earlier this week.

    AT&T TV Will Likely Be Launching Nationwide on February 11 - Cord Cutters News

    They're reporting -- and have screenshots to back it up -- that at least some current AT&T TV subscribers in the pilot test markets are seeing a notification in their accounts that their current channel package "ends Feb. 11, 2020". The two screenshots shown appear to come from an AT&T TV subscriber with the Entertainment package, regularly priced at $93/mo but with a promo price of $49.99/mo. Underneath their current package, the screenshots show two other packages under a "What I Can Get" heading and they're the new Plus and Max packages that were introduced last March by AT&T TV Now.

    This isn't proof-positive but does strongly suggest that the pet theory I've posted several times is correct: that when AT&T TV launches nationwide next month, new subscribers will not be offered the old set of DirecTV channel packages (Entertainment, Xtra, etc.), they'll only be offered the new set of packages including (but perhaps not limited to) Plus and Max, both of which include HBO (and the future HBO Max) as a core part of the line-up.

    I had anticipated that current AT&T TV subs in the test markets would be grandfathered into their existing packages and allowed to keep them but it looks like that may not be the case.

    Since last summer, Plus and Max have been listed as unadvertised options for new sign-ups on DirecTV too. I expect that they'll soon become the new exclusive options there too, although I'll be shocked if AT&T forces current DirecTV subs to switch over from their current packages to them rather than grandfathering them in on their existing packages (e.g. Entertainment, Xtra, etc.) as long as they wish to keep them.
     
  5. techguy88

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    I'm thinking the thing with the packages is a glitch where they are using 1 platform (AT&T TV app) for both AT&T TV and AT&T TV Now. On AT&T's unofficial sub-Reddit grandfathered customers occasionally post with screenshots where they have glitches work to their benefit where AT&T will bill them a month or two of Go Big @ $25 or $35 per month before going back to $60 (those on the launch offer) / $85 (those not on a promo offer).
     
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  6. compnurd

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    Bingo
     
  7. NashGuy

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    Yeah, could be a glitch. AT&T is certainly no stranger to glitches in their billing systems. But if it is a glitch, I don't see why it would have anything necessarily to do with AT&T TV and AT&T TV Now using the same platform. Both services have offered the same two sets of packages, its just that the former has (so far, in the pilot markets) focused on selling the traditional set while the latter has (since March 2019) focused on selling the new set. And this new development -- where users' accounts are showing that their entire package will end on a certain date and they need to choose a new one -- is a much bigger and categorically different kind of glitch, if that's what it is, than a simple glitch where an account is charged the wrong price or given an unexpected credit on the existing package.

    [Edit: One last thing I would add is that I don't think that AT&T TV Now uses the main AT&T account/billing system that is used by AT&T TV, DirecTV, and AT&T Internet/Fiber. Sort of how AT&T Prepaid doesn't use the same system that AT&T Wireless uses.]

    If we see news in the days leading up to Feb. 11 that some of the critical channels missing from the Plus and Max packages get added to them -- channels like AMC, A&E, History, Discovery, HGTV, etc. -- then that would be further confirmation that AT&T is preparing to make those packages the new default (or even exclusive) options for AT&T TV. They won't try to sell Plus and Max as the standard choices for their new flagship cable TV service as long as they're still missing so many popular channels. It's one thing to do that with AT&T TV Now, as they're currently doing, given that it's a low-profile service aimed at cord-cutters, but it's not something that they could do for a full-fledged flagship service like AT&T TV.
     
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  8. compnurd

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    They use the same billing system
     
  9. techguy88

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    AT&T TV Now and AT&T WatchTV are billed through their own websites and are separate from the rest. The screenshots in the article seem to have AT&T TV being billed through the same AT&T system that converted/new DirecTV and U-Verse TV uses which is att.com/myatt and the myAT&T app.
     
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  10. compnurd

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    ATT TV Now is billed on the same website/system as by Directv Account which is the newer one
     
  11. Steveknj

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    I'm so curious to see how this is marketed when it goes live. Color me as someone who follows this and am totally confused. Imagine someone who doesn't follow it? FWIW, I still think AT&T has totally botched this, mostly because of their insistence on using their corporate name in everything they touch.
     
  12. NashGuy

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    When I had DirecTV Now and later AT&T Watch TV, neither of them used the main AT&T website. In neither case could I log into ATT.com and see my account there, as I could do with my AT&T Internet account (or as one can do now with DirecTV and AT&T TV). Maybe that's changed, although I do know that you still can't purchase AT&T TV Now on the main ATT.com site, you have to do it on the separate ATTTVNow.com site. If you're an AT&T Wireless Unlimited customer, you qualify for some kind of discount on AT&T TV Now but to get it, they verify you via text message to your AT&T Wireless number to link that account to your separate AT&T TV Now account.
     
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    Heh. Yeah, for us guys who regularly follow what AT&T does, it's like watching a convoluted soap opera with lots of confusing plot twists. But the average Joe has no idea about all this stuff and still doesn't realize that there's such as thing as DirecTV Now/AT&T TV Now or AT&T Watch TV. They know about DirecTV that comes through a satellite dish (but maybe don't realize AT&T owns it) and, if it's available in their area, they probably know about Uverse TV.

    In 2020, I presume that AT&T's marketing efforts will focus on making Joe understand their two major new products: HBO Max, a super-sized streaming version of HBO, which will directly compete with Netflix, and AT&T TV, their new flagship cable TV service that largely replaces both DirecTV and UVerse TV for new subscribers, and which (probably) automatically includes HBO Max.

    I wonder if we'll see them kick off their ad campaign for AT&T TV during the AT&T TV Super Saturday Night concert with Lady Gaga this weekend? We'll probably also get some news about the pending nationwide launch of AT&T TV this Wed. on the company's quarterly earnings call.
     
  14. I WANT MORE

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    Just checked the channel lineups this morning.
    ALL of the regional sports channels are now listed in choice and above.

    Now I'm interested.
     
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    All? Are you sure? Last I checked it was missing MSG Networks (I believe) in NY.
     
  16. I WANT MORE

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    Just looked again and there gone.
    Totally different looking page. Can't get back to the one that showed all the FSNs, NBCSNs, etc.
    Both MSGs, SNY, and Yes are available though.
     
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  17. James Long

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    Choice should include only the local RSNs. It was probably a glitch.
     
  18. I WANT MORE

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    Or...….……………………..perhaps a harbinger of things to come. :D
     
  19. Steveknj

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    That's excellent. Still not sure if what the advantage for me would be as a Sat subscriber, but at least I'm somewhat interested now.
     
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  20. I WANT MORE

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    Went back in again and there they are. 107F19C0-FCB1-4C32-94EB-65A8A5A37A03.jpeg
     

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