AT&T TV Launches Nationwide Feb. 2020

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  1. Dec 14, 2019 #21 of 781
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    One should not assume that the package offered in February will be the same as was offered in the test markets. I haven't read any disclosures from management as to the results of the test market but a test is generally used to determine if all the components of the package is appropriate. If I had to opine I would say that the 2 year contract will be eliminated. A new management team is in place so I would think that they would want to report a resounding success (like Disney+) and that is not achievable with a 1 or 2 year contract requirement.
     
  2. Dec 14, 2019 #22 of 781
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    Or the price point, or the requirement to use their device.

    This is an attempt to prepare to move D* off satellites.

    The reason for Disney+ success is that it was relatively cheap and a pretty good value. The bundle more so. This offering isn't.


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  3. Dec 14, 2019 #23 of 781
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    College games are not blacked out. No additional subscription is necessary.
    There are college football and basketball games that are not available elsewhere.
    Example: New Mexico State @ New Mexico basketball at 7:00 PM central on channel 683 is not available anywhere else.
    That's just one example.
    There are also college specific sports shows.
    There are also less popular sports like College Softball.
    ESPN College Extra channels would be nice to have also. D* carries these also.
     
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  4. Dec 14, 2019 #24 of 781
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    You don't NEED to buy another box.
    The first box is free and you can use your ATV also to receive the programming.
     
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  5. Dec 14, 2019 #25 of 781
    CraigerM

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    Using their box makes it like DTV. It has Android TV Operators Tier and not the regular Android TV. This allows it to have channel numbers and boot into live TV and will be on the last channel that you were watching.

    All you need to know about Android TV Operator Tier
     
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  6. Dec 14, 2019 #26 of 781
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    So when this goes national in February, is this what is going to be marketed solely to new customers and will D* be longer marketed to new customers? AT&T says this will be cheaper for them, but I don't see it being cheaper for the consumer. With AT&T wanting get out of the satellite business, will this open the door to a merger with Dish

    The consumer is flocking to streaming because it's substantially cheaper than traditional TV. If this is going to be marketed as a replacement for D* (it's basically what it is) with D* pricing, fees and contracts, this is quickly going the way of New Coke.
     
  7. Dec 14, 2019 #27 of 781
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    Directv isn’t going away any any any time soon. I am sure in areas that have limited satellite access and good network(cities). This is going to be a big push for them into a market they could never have. But there is still a lot of this country with limited internet to handle this

    While people are going to streaming. Costs are rising there also
     
  8. Dec 14, 2019 #28 of 781
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    AT&T has already said as D* satellite's retire in orbit they won't be replaced. It may not be in February, but eventually D* will cease to exist as we know it.

    Streaming services will never match the price of cable or satellite, so that's a flawed argument. YouTube TV today is CHEAPER than Mediacom's introductory price for it's bare bone package, and that price is only good for 12 months.
     
  9. Dec 14, 2019 #29 of 781
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    I think they want to replicate what we have now. They don't want to give up any money streams.

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    Stupid is one thing. Stubborn is another thing. Combine them and you have ATT.

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    From what I've read it seems like the new service might have similar pricing to what we have now. Don't expect to see much of a savings.

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    This is mostly speculation at this point. I would not be surprised to see streaming costs rise to the point where the cost is about the same as cable or sat. Right now chaos reigns, give it a year or two, see what happens.

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  13. Dec 14, 2019 #33 of 781
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    The smart way to hit the street running would be to offer more channels than YouTube with at least a equal number of sports channels including "D's" 4K channels and a unlimited cloud DVR all at or below Youtubes current $49.99 mo. With that they may come close to duplicating the early success of Disney+.
     
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  14. Dec 14, 2019 #34 of 781
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    You are right I think that is what they are thinking. But they are bleeding subscribers and as soon as people have to do “something” the inertia which keeps lots of people paying the current high D fees breaks and since they have to do something it will wake them up enough to look around...then what. I just don’t see this as a winning strategy. But hey, I’m sure the geniuses running AT&T are much smarter than I am.
     
  15. Dec 14, 2019 #35 of 781
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    Anything is possible but I just don’t see how the gap closes unless the cable/sat prices stop going up every year and the OTT services prices skyrocket. I mean a bit less than 3 years ago when I left D my monthly bill was $120 and I only had 3 of my 7 TVs connected. Based on the yearly prices increases I have seen it would certainly be higher than that now. My current YTTV bill is $50 and I have access on all 7 of my TVs. If you start running the math it’s going to a long while until those 2 price lines converge.
     
  16. Dec 14, 2019 #36 of 781
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    Yeah, chaos is at the top of the list!! :)

    Going forward I expect to see cable/sat replacement streamers increase a fair bit as it seems most are losing money now to grow market share. From some financial news it seems at least some of the free ad-supported streamers are being profitable, but none of them are cable/sat replacements. They are all similar to Netflix and others for the most part.
    For geeks like us, finding the shows we like is doable as most are on some service somewhere, some free, some not.


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  17. Dec 14, 2019 #37 of 781
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    Beginning with the merger have you seen anything ATT has done that strikes you as "smart"? They look like they are gonna hit the street with something very similar to the sat service we have now. Along with all the encumbrances. They're certainly not gonna lowball YT as far as price.

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    Wouldn't subbing to the new ATT venture be the path of least resistance for most folks that have D* sat service? For all we know it might be wildly successful. We're having conversations about this that millions of subscribers don't have access to. I would not be surprised if it took off. I think I said that right off the bat some time ago.

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  19. Dec 14, 2019 #39 of 781
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    Not talking about "now". We don't know how all this is gonna shake out. Right now I'm paying a helluva lot more monthly for TV than I ever did.

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    Yup.

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