AT&T TV Launches Nationwide Feb. 2020

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  1. Dec 15, 2019 #81 of 781
    TV_Guy

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    This includes 200 MB internet. You need to be a new customer so you would have to use FIOS or something else for 30 or 60 days to become new again. Rough calculation 8 sets would run about $212 plus local taxes with the $17.99 DVR and a 1 tier upgrade from the Core package and equipment and fees. You might need to bump it up further. I think you're better off with YTTV. Altice guarantees the $64.99 base rate for life but fees are subject to increases. Something tells me they could also play games with the channels in the package to make the guarantee worthless.
     
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  2. Dec 15, 2019 #82 of 781
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    Mediacom has that fee also but it isn’t always applied for no apparent reason.


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  3. Dec 15, 2019 #83 of 781
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    Is a box required?
     
  4. Dec 15, 2019 #84 of 781
    TV_Guy

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    For HDMI capable sets Altice supplies a $20 combination modem, router, cable box, IPTV. I guess by law you could substitute a TIVO with a cable card but then you need to supply your own modem and router. You might also need a tuning adapter to go along with the cablecard for some premium channels that use request switched digital video (SDV).
     
  5. Dec 15, 2019 #85 of 781
    James Long

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    They shouldn't. And neither should AT&T TV. But right now, December 2019, both companies are charging for the channels they have. As YTTV (and others) add more channels they WILL charge more. Whether they keep adding to their base package and push their price up to match DIRECTV or they follow the path of keeping the core package affordable and adding theme packs, every service WILL increase in price as they add channels and as the price they are being charged continues to be increased.

    $50 for 70+ channels and losing money is not sustainable. A balance needs to be found between services making enough profit to stay in business and customers getting a low enough price that they can afford the service. There are no easy answers.
     
  6. Dec 15, 2019 #86 of 781
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    I agree for the most part. The main attraction for live tv is news and sports. Generally YTTV concentrates on news and sports. I think any additions should be in the sports area since they have news pretty well covered. They are currently missing NHL Network and the NFL Network. These would be logical additions if they feel they need to add channels. Other possible extra cost add ons they could consider are Red Zone and the MSG RSNs in the NY market. Adding dozens of entertainment channels could cost them subscribers.
     
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  7. Dec 15, 2019 #87 of 781
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    I like the modular building block approach I see YTTV taking. It will be interesting to see if and how they will extend it.
     
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    I am in SFLA and see not much or hear anything. But AT&T did send me a come back offer in the mail. I used it as toilet paper.
     
  9. Dec 15, 2019 #89 of 781
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    Agree! Love YTTV. Yes, I loose some channels but adding Philo for $20 and its still $70
     
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    From my perspective, it’s more sustainable than paying $80 (plus receiver, HD, etc fees) for 155+ channels, especially if those 70 channels cover 90% of my desires.

    I’d rather Google lose money than me pay too much.

    I’m actually getting much more likely to say goodbye to cable/satellite/linear streaming services than pay much more than that. OTA picture quality has never been this good, and both my TVs get guide data off the air.
     
  11. Dec 15, 2019 #91 of 781
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    Google isn't going to lose money forever. Sure, I'd like it if all MVPDs were free ... but we're not dealing with charities. We're dealing with for profit businesses that will need to make a profit off of every product at some point.
     
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    Sorry, I was asking about whether a box was required for the AT&T TV service.

     
  13. Dec 15, 2019 #93 of 781
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    1. Do you know for a fact that they are losing money?

    2. If they are, then one day in the future they may raise prices. When that day comes, I may change providers.

    3. If Google is going to be charitable and offer a loss leader rate for a service, I’d be a fool not the accept their charity.

    I feel no compunction to pay more for a service (AT&T TV) just because I’m concerned that my current providers may not be profitable, particularly when that provider has a near $1 trillion market capitalization.


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  14. Dec 15, 2019 #94 of 781
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    No problem. AT&T TV requires 1 box. AT&T Now does not require a box.
     
  15. Dec 15, 2019 #95 of 781
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    Thanks. Any idea on why the box is required? My understanding is the service is accessible through apps on Apple TV, etc...I wonder why one box would be required.

     
  16. Dec 15, 2019 #96 of 781
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    Yeah, I find the whole question a bit silly. Maybe I’m different but when I shop for a product or service, whether the company selling me the product or service can make a profit based on the price point they are charging is literally never part of my decision process. Sure, I make sure that I’m buying the product or service from a reputable company that I’m confident is going to remain in business but that’s a different question. Honestly I’m not worried about Google going out of business anytime soon whether they charge me $50 or some other amount per month for YTTV...LOL
     
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  17. Dec 15, 2019 #97 of 781
    James Long

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    Get the subsidized ride for as long as you can but know this: The ride will end. Expecting YTTV to remain base price $35 "forever" would have been short sighted. One bump to $40 for new subscribers then the big bump to $50 for everyone.

    I suppose it is self centered to not care if the vMVPD service exists next month or not. As long as one can get their content elsewhere there is no personal pain. But I'd suggest watching the market and seeing what the next best deal is. I have no expectation that bargain pricing will last "forever". I'm not that naive.
     
  18. Dec 15, 2019 #98 of 781
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    I actually expect the price to plateau or business to disappear. It will happen a lot faster than you expect. (v)MVPD services are on the cusp of becoming the next buggy whip manufacturers.


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  19. Dec 15, 2019 #99 of 781
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    Google is not going to lose money

    They stopped deploying fiber because they were losing money.
     
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    I completely agree with you. YTTVs price can’t stay at $50 forever. They will inevitably raise the price. So will all the others. And yes, I’ll buy my live tv service from whatever supplier provides the best value for me. That’s not being self centered, that’s being a smart consumer. Last time I checked that’s the way the free market worked...LOL And I don’t expect Google to get out of the live tv market anytime soon, or go belly up. My guess is this is a long term play for them.
     
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