AT&T TV - recording sports

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  1. Rich

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    I really thought the PQ on YTTV was disappointing. Felt the same way about PS Vue when I tried it.

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    Correct. I can't complain about the PQ I get from my ATVs. Give you an example of what I mean: I tried watching Yellowstone on D* (IIRC) when it first came out and quickly gave up on it because of the dismal picture. We were looking for something interesting last night on the Peacock app and my wife asked me about Yellowstone. I told her I had tried it and quickly gave up on it. We ended up trying it and, wow! What a difference in PQ! Always been a fan of anything with Costner and now I can appreciate Yellowstone. On my ATVs, simply the best streaming boxes out there, I think.

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    Rich, I agree the ATV’s are the best streaming box out there. All the services are supported and the video and audio quality are top notch.

    If the damned remote was better I would always use mine.
     
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    I didnt really notice any issues.. But only used it for 2 days before we switched It wasnt as glaring as Dish
     
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    yup lol that fing remote. I really hope we get a new one when the new box launches
     
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    I don't despise the ATV remote. It's got some shortcomings, but I've learned how to optimize usage like any other system you'd have to learn. I'm a heavy Siri user, so that helps. Scrolling through channels on YTTV with the remote gets to be a chore, but I've stacked everything that I spend a large majority of time viewing near the top of the channel list.
     
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    If the "damned" remote is used for what it's designed for I think it's superb. If you use it on a cable replacement app...well, that's not what it was designed for. Another reason I don't want to bother with a cable replacement service, I really enjoy my ATVs and their remotes. The remote ATTTV uses is one of the major things about that service that intrigues me, which is designed specifically for a cable replacement service. I have tried using the ATVs on CRSs and it wasn't enjoyable.

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    I found it rather "dull" picture-wise. No pop. Not a "glaring" problem but the more I watched the more it annoyed me. The same thing happened when I tried PS Vue.

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    Yeah, ATT TV’s remote for their box is great in many ways.

    Downsides are the general sluggishness of the box itself. Voice works fine once it decides to listen which can sometimes take awhile.

    My biggest complaint with the ATV remote is with live streaming services as sliding across the touchpad, even at the slowest setting is too sensitive.
     
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    When they designed the remotes and boxes I don't think they considered using ATVs on cable replacement apps. IIRC, the CRSs didn't even exist until a couple of years ago. I can understand people complaining about ATVs on cable replacement services but when used on sites such as Netflix they work very well.

    Suppose you buy a Lincoln Towncar. You drive it for a year or so and find out all your friends are getting into off-road activities. Not to be ignored you take the Lincoln off-road and find out it's not made for that. Would you complain about it and keep on using it in that manner or would you get rid of it and get a vehicle you could take off-road? You need a remote and a box made for a cable replacement service.

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    I don't know what to say about the settings, I have to have mine on the lowest setting and I have no issues with them. I don't use the pad very much anymore but I would miss it if it disappeared.

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    To tie this back to the reason this thread was started, I think this is a great example of why ATT TV's current DVR implementation isn't good enough. By sticking to just implementing recording based on program guide time slots they cover episodic content very well, but that's the content that is moving away to other services.

    Why would I DVR standard TV shows if I could get them in higher quality without commercials through services like Peacock, Hulu, Netflix, or CBS:AA? Who has the best trickplay implementation becomes moot when there are no more commercials to skip.

    The thing the DVR is going to keep being important for is live events like sports, and for that manual time extensions were always a crude implementation because it requires you to guess what the future will hold. As YoutubeTV has been able to demonstrate, there are a number of things that can be used to automatically adjust program times. Most major sports have live stats that you can see on various websites - if the game is still building stats, clearly it's still going on. The next level would be to scrape the video feed for things like time clocks and score bugs.

    Last year YoutubeTV implemented a DVR feature called Key Plays ( View sports stats and key plays - YouTube TV Help ) where you can jump to specific time points in a game recording based on stats. Want to see a hit, run, or double play in a baseball game? Just click through the list of key plays and you can see what happened. Just recently they've upgraded that feature to "Key plays to live" where it shows all the key plays that have happened so far in the game in order, and then joins the game in progress. It's basically an automatic highlight reel to get you caught up to the game as you start watching.

    Meanwhile, I've paid for a month of ATT TV Now to give a fair assessment of the service -- and so far when I've tried to add series recordings for F1 races, it's showing me program titles from ESPN Deportes even though it's really recording from ESPN/ESPN2, the practices and qualification broadcasts worked just fine, but the race itself was unwatchable for the DVR and kept throwing errors. It's been rather disappointing on the functionality front, but for the live feeds they definitely have the best 1080i to 1080p video processing of the live TV services.
     
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    Same question I've been asking for a few years. And the reason I don't have as many DVRs as used to have.

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    Convenience. That’s one of the reasons, and it is a pretty good one. Watch or record a show all inside one app, only one UI to deal with. That makes for ease and convenience.

    Right now Peacock doesn’t do next day or even next week on their channel sourced shows. Hulu does for quite a few channels, Netflix doesn’t at all generally delayed a year. CBS:AA is next day for CBS shows, I’m wondering just how well that will hold up for the newly added content.

    While you can build up a long list of things to watch by using free/low-cost subscriptions, you can only do it if you are comfortable with switching apps and/or boxes.

    But right now, because of the lack of new episodes/shows it just doesn’t matter much. When things normalize I have to wonder how all of it will end up.
     
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    I haven't actually bought that. I got an email about it. It looks interesting. It is a trade off of Siri to get rid of that silly touch pad. I have found nothing from any service where I like that touch pad.
     
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    The free tier doesn't get next-day shows, but the premium and premium(no ads) tiers do. The wife really likes watching World of Dance which has frame-rate issues on Hulu, so she's been thrilled with it now being on Peacock. Same deal for Titan Games, and although video playback was fine on Hulu, on Peacock it has 5.1 audio now.

    The nice thing about the "TV" app on the Apple TV is that it integrates with CBS:AA, Hulu, Peacock, Disney+, Amazon Prime, and HBO MAX. Once you find a program the first time (which, admittedly, can be annoying), we've really enjoyed being able to just pick things out of "Up Next" and having it automatically jump straight to that show in whatever app happens to have it.

    It's not perfect, but I do like the promise this configuration shows.
     
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    My bad on CBS and next day airings. Since there isn’t anything new or even interesting to me on any of the broadcast stations, I hadn’t really noticed. Inane game shows and ‘contest’ type shows are of no interest to me at all.

    The TV app on the AppleTV is pretty good though oft times the show’s sourcing is a bit odd. It sometimes, but not always shows some series I’m watching on Netflix, but since they don’t actually integrate Netflix, it shows source as a purchase/rental item from Apple. But it isn’t just with Netflix shows, it happens with others too though not as often. I tend not to use it as I usually binge watch various things.
     
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    I don't use the pad very much either. I would not like to see it disappear, though. When you need to get to the end of a program that pad gets you there faster than any remote I've ever used.

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