ATT TV - a little review

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  1. Jan 4, 2021 #581 of 1811
    lparsons21

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    I’ve had YTTV, Sling and ATT TV off and on for quite some time now. ATT TV and ATT TV Now do have the best picture and audio of any of the live streamers, but it comes at a price.

    ATT TV Now - This is a straight streaming service with no contract. The Max subscription level has the sports and also include HBO Max and Cinemax. Cost is $80/month.

    But as with everything else with streaming, it depends whether or not that fits you. Do a Google search for ATT TV Now and look at the channel lineup to see if it fits you.

    ATT TV - This is essentially a cable/sat replacement service with similar subscription packages, RSN fee on some levels and the pesky 2 year contract.

    Note that the deal offers great pricing in the first year and a rebate which I think is $200 now, but that varies. You also get the ATT TV Osprey box with it which is a decent way to use the service, but isn’t a requirement to use.

    But 2nd year pricing jumps over $40/month.
     
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    As noted in Lloyd's post prior to yours, surround sound may (or may not) be absent on the ATV.

    Reservations with tying the knot with AT&T are ever-present. There is some speculation that Uverse and/or AT&T TV may get split to a possible new DIRECTV partner.
     
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    The surround sound issue with AppleTV and ATT TV is on a per channel and sometimes per show basis. It is there for most channels and shows, just not all of them.
     
  4. Jan 4, 2021 #584 of 1811
    lparsons21

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    Yeah, AT&T continues to make it a mess with their offerings and the possible/probable/maybe selling off of DirecTV and/or/including ATT TV doesn’t give me a warm fuzzy feeling!

    Thankfully I’m now with ATT TV Now with no contract so it becomes less of a consideration.
     
  5. Jan 11, 2021 #585 of 1811
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    Some updated ramblings... :)

    I’ve been using the ATT Osprey box almost exclusively for the past week. Seems that the December 3rd update added a little oomph to the box. Much quicker doing virtually everything and while it still isn’t as quick as many other boxes, it is good enough IMO.

    With app loading, it is still a fair bit slower than other boxes, but again, good enough. Voice works MUCH better now, best I’ve ever seen it do.

    The things it doesn’t do are still there. No ATMOS sound support which is odd since it did to ATMOS with the WW84 movie on HBO Max. So it seems the box can do ATMOS and that makes me wonder why it doesn’t pick up on Netflix’s ATMOS. Still no official support for Amazon Prime app or Hulu though both can be sideloaded. Hulu sideload has to be version 2.1.3 as newer versions won’t give sound, other than that it does work just fine.

    One app that isn’t available for it is the AppleTV+ app. I’ve read it is coming to at least some AndroidTV based devices, hopefully this will be one.

    Live streaming continues to rise in price and right now the ones with a wide range of channels are all circling around the $70/month mark. While Sling is often used as the cheaper way to go, it is a bit misleading. To get Sling to have a comparable channel depth and number as YouTubeTV or Hulu+Live you need to have SlingBlue+Gold+TotalTV and that comes in at $70/month with no locals. IMO unless skinnier levels of Sling are wanted, it isn’t a bargain but is competitive.

    There are other live streamers out there, such as Philo which is often used to fill holes the bigger services have. But with them it is a pay less, get less situation IMO.

    ATT TV Now at the Max subscription level is a competitive offering and is the minimum subscription you can get and also get the Sinclair//Fox RSNs. ATT streaming is the only service that has those RSN’s at all these days. It offers a pretty good selection of content and also comes with HBO Max and Cinemax, so that adds to the value a bit. And as I’ve said in the past, ATT’s live streaming services are the only live streaming services offering DD5.1 Dolby audio. All the rest just have stereo.

    Notably missing are:
    NFL Channel and RedZone - no ATT streaming service has them.
    A&E Networks stuff
    EDIT: Discovery networks stuff is also missing
    BBC/AMC - But subbing to AMC+ @$9/month can fill that hole and also give Shudder, IFC, Sundance and some original stuff too.

    It should be noted that AMC+ is kind of a standalone service but you can only subscribe within another service. For me, that is with Amazon Prime’s Channels and then you access it via the Prime app. Apple and Roku also offer it as a ‘channel’, though in Roku’s case you can only access it via the Roku app on a Roku device. With Prime and Apple’s you can access it on any box that has those apps.
     
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    Ooops! A couple of niggling things I forgot to mention.

    The DVR is 500 hours and works pretty well. Notably missing is a good way to manage scheduled recordings especially if the show is not currently running. That is because there is no way to access a scheduled list you could modify. It is irritating but not a show stopper IMO.

    The VOD is very good and laid out quite well IMO. The Discover menu is where you get started and you can pick Networks, Shows or Movies. From there is a huge selection of VOD, most complete with non-skippable ads. One downside is that the search is a bit flaky, sometimes just not finding a show/movie in the VOD stuff though it is there. And it varies between doing search via voice or typing it in.
     
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    Just goes to show they really had no real strategy a year ago (back when even their marketing materials were wrong). What a mess. Now you have two versions of AT&T TV, one with contract and one without, same offerings (by the looks) but different priced models. My year with AT&T is up in April, it'll be interesting to see what they offer me in lieu of cancelling.
     
  9. Jan 12, 2021 #589 of 1811
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    The no contract version with only 20 hours of DVR would be a deal breaker.
     
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    Agreed. However, you can get to 500 hours for an extra $10 a month.

    Their site actually does a decent comparison breakdown of the two options (contract vs non-contract) that I found informative. Buying a house in April, so I'll likely have the option to go back to Directv if I want to, I'll have to weigh everything out. I really don't want spectrum but I will if I have to. Sunday Ticket was going to be a main factor, but I spent more time watching Red Zone this year than the games on ST.
     
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    Glad I made the switch to ATT TV Now Max package when I did. To me it is a better channel mix and the cost is almost comparable. If I were to move to something different it wouldn’t be these new levels, or at least a cursory glance tells me I wouldn’t.
     
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    Yeah, it does do a pretty good job of giving the options, but it is still the confusing mish-mash that ATT’s streaming TV services has been from the get go!

    And you should note that NONE of the ATT TV’s streaming subscriptions have NFL channel or RedZone. And because of the way the packaging is on the various subscription levels and the new upgrade offering for the DVR expansion, it appears that it is a silent rate increase though that is hard to pin down because of the differences between the old ‘Now’ packages and these new ones.

    All in all, it makes ATT TV’s offerings all the most expensive way to stream! For that extra money you get the best live streaming picture, DD5.1 audio and depending on subscription level, access to the Fox/Sinclair RSNs.
     
  13. Jan 12, 2021 #593 of 1811
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    Given that the merged entity seems likely to have a fraction of the subscribers of Uverse (which may be sharing the auction block with DIRECTV), I wonder if they've really thought this out or this is just another flag run up the pole.
     
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    So I am looking at the pricing between the 2 and I am really struggling to see why anyone would take the contract... If you take Ultimate with No Contract and add the DVR is is 70 dollars cheaper overall for 2 years
     
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    I did a quick calculation at the Entertainment level and you save about $3/month with contract assuming you pick up the DVR expansion. That wouldn’t be much of an enticement. And unless I missed something, it seems the contract version no longer has the $200 rebate which was a good enticement.

    Doing a quick comparison of my ATT TV Now Max level to the new Ultimate shows a huge increase in out of pocket costs. Ultimate is the lowest level with the Golf channel which is one of my must have channels. While Ultimate would pick up a lot more channels almost none are of any real interest on my part. Here’s the cost comparison:

    Current ATT TV Now Max : $80/month
    HBO Max included
    Cinemax included
    Wide range of channels
    500 hour DVR
    Important missing : AMC/BBCA get for $9/month

    Total out of pocket : $89/month

    New ATT TV Now Ultimate : $95/month
    HBO Max for a year
    no Cinemax
    Wider range of channels
    20 hour DVR
    No important missing

    Expand DVR to 500 hours : $10/month

    Total out of pocket : $105/month
    If Cinemax wanted : $115/month total

    For those additional dollars no real benefit at all.

    For comparison to others:
    YTTV $65/month - add HBO total is $80
    Sling Blue+Gold+Total TV $70/month - add HBO $85/month
     
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    Doing math seems to show that this ‘new’ way actually embeds a rate increase without saying so. They seemed to have done away with the $200 rebate which in itself raises the total cost for the contract version over the contract term.

    IMO, this is just another flailing marketing gambit which further shows that AT&T has no clue when it comes to dealing with streaming offerings.
     
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    I am actually quite intrigued by this.. With football over and no need for NFL or Sunday Ticket.. The no contract saves me 30 a month to be somewhat equal
     
  18. Jan 12, 2021 #598 of 1811
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    The problem being how to you get the NFL back next season and subsequently, whether or not what you do for the 2021 season will have NFLST in the 2022 season.
     
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    NFLST is a problem for sure, especially considering that it isn’t available for most streamers now and the uncertainty of what the ATT sat service will do about it.

    But NFL itself? Nah, not a problem at all. Change to whatever floats your boat and saves a few bucks now and then change again when the NFL season starts again.
     
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    With contract comes with 500 hours DVR so why would you need the DVR expansion?
     

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