ATT TV - a little review

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  1. Jan 20, 2021 #781 of 1280
    James Long

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    Digital broadcasting is streaming. Not IP packets, but still a compressed digital encoding.

    Probably parked next to the one doing native 1080i in today's environment.
     
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    So what's the hardship with doing 1080i?
    I think it more likely that the 720p trucks were refitted for 4K of some sort.
     
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    James Long

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    It is a choice. Way above your pay grade. Don't worry about it.
     
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    harsh

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    You spoke as if you believed that 720p was the superior choice. Why do you believe that?

    Just so you're not confused, I actually produce sports programming when there isn't a pandemic preventing it.
     
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    James Long

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    Your failure to read is noted. I noted that ABC and Fox chose that format and commented that the poster who I was responding to apparently agreed with that choice. I did not express my opinion as to whether 720p or 1080i is or was the best choice for sports programming. You also seemed to miss the point that a native 1080i truck would be as rare as a 720p truck in today's environment (although there is always old junk to deal with in the broadcast industry). But that point was more nuanced. (BTW: It isn't the truck that "shoots" video, it is the cameras. But that is a nit pick.)
     
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    Most people don't like their video to look like this:
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    Streaming providers could choose to keep 1080i as native interlaced distribution, but at a substantial hit to just about every major video compression algorithm in use today (30-40% more bandwidth, in certain cases). You also have the issue that millions of devices, particularly mobile devices, don't have dedicated de-interlacing ASICs, so you would absolutely destroy battery life doing motion adaptive de-interlacing using the device general CPU.

    Interlacing was a hack to get more resolution out of existing analog channel bandwidth that was all based on the physics of how a CRT generated the image for the viewer. In a world that's moved beyond CRT displays and analog video distribution, interlaced video is now just a thing that everybody annoyingly has to deal with thanks to backwards compatibility requirements.
     
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    For those looking to get the AT&T Osprey box, here’s a little about setting it up.

    The setup is very simple, basically unbox, connect hdmi, power and Ethernet if not using WiFi. Then just follow the onscreen setup routine. Note that while the setup is very straightforward it is also a bit tedious so get a beer/coffee or whatever your favorite beverage is.

    First thing you’ll note is to pair the remote to the box, simple and easy and it usually will pick up and program itself for your TV and sound system automatically if it can. This actually works pretty well.

    One note on the remote. After all the setup is done and the remote is paired, it might need a remote update. This will happen automatically after a minute or so. And before it does that you might notice the remote not being responsive. While there is no indication you can see, I think that is the period of time that the remote is getting the update.

    After your initialization and signin you’ll be prompted for Google signin.

    Certain apps are pre-installed some others are not but they are simple to get as long as the one you want is in the App Store. But you should note that the box will be fairly doggy for awhile as it is doing some things in the background I assume. Within about an hour things will get faster and the next day be even better.

    Note that runnng those apps the first time, and sometimes even at other times, the app might crash and take you back to the main screen. Sometimes you can just re-select the app and run it again, sometimes it just won’t and even sometimes it will restart the box. That is just the quirkiness of the box and what makes it not a great ‘one box’ solution even if the services you want have an app for it.
     
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    lparsons21

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    What a difference a day makes!

    Today neither Prime nor Disney will do ATMOS audio on the Osprey box. No changes were made to this particular box so I’m stumped as to exactly why.

    And neither will WW84 on HBO Max. So something must have changed that I can’t find.
     
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    lparsons21

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    Well I spoke too soon it seems. ATMOS is back for the same unknown reason it went away!
     
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    What is the model number of the box if I want to try to buy it on Ebay.
     
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    When you get to eBay just search for AT&T osprey

    That will get you there. Note that most of them are listed as beta boxes, but since AT&T never did anything with them after release, they are the same as the new ones. Note if the remote is listed as the new one or look at the pictures to ensure it is.

    Here’s the guy I bought from and he still has some to sell.

    AT&T DirectTV Streaming Player Osprey Android Beta Box (C71KW-200) | eBay
     
  12. Jan 20, 2021 #792 of 1280
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    As an existing Directv customer exploring alternatives, I am well aware of the restrictions on transferring equipment. Was there any problem registering the equipment with ATT and do you know if you sold the registered box whether the buyer would be able to register the box.
     
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    There is no registration as far as I’m aware. All you have to do and all I’ve ever had to do was input my user ID and password in when it gets to that screen during initial boot up. It works for either AT&T TV with contract as well as without (the old AT&T TV Now). You can easily sign up now online for just the streaming service, use the app for now on supported devices and then when the Osprey boxes show up, just sign in on them and use those. Super easy!
     
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    Correct, there isn’t any registration of the box itself. It is just an AndroidTV based box with the ATT TV software configured to be what comes up first.

    I think the reason that registration is done with the satellite gear is to track where its at since they charge a fee by the box. ATT’s streaming service doesn’t do that, it service limits you to three concurrent streams and doesn’t care what device is using those streams.
     
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    One thing I’ve noticed but not commented on is the local channels situation. It seems in many, if not most, areas that ATT TV doesn’t have many of the local channels. Mostly just the big 4. For the CW channel it is VOD only. And the other local channels are a no show.

    If those local sub-channels are important to you the only ways to get them are Locast, if it is available in your area, or an antenna. I use an antenna and OTA DVR that works well.

    I’ve been trying to twiddle up the AppleTV app onto the ATT Osprey box. No joy. I’ve found the APK’s and have installed 2 different versions. Neither will work! One says you need Sony stuff, the other says it needs FireTV stuff. So that will have to wait until Apple offers an official version for AndroidTV boxes. Supposedly that is coming this year. Apple could make it easier by allowing the AppleTV app on iOS devices support Chromecast, but I doubt that will ever happen.
     
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    Thankfully in my market we have the CW Only missing PBS
     
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    harsh

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    In my area, the offering includes ROOT! Sports (the only RSN that DIRECTV carries) as well as the big four. They list another station but it is mostly a mirror of the Fox station.

    The local PBS, OPB, is a very good one and would be missed.

    Like Lloyd, I have an OTA solution -- Plex. Unfortunately, the repacks are still finishing up and my ABC and CBS affiliates are weak to not receivable at the moment.

    The vacation facility has no OTA access.

    Locast currently hits only Seattle, San Fran and Los Angeles on the Left Coast.
     
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    lparsons21

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    I had to do a re-scan on my AirTV Anywhere box today which is odd since I didn’t have to do that on my Recast.
     
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    DirectMan

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    Can you use the box like an Amazon FireStick or Roku to access Netflix, Amazon Prime and other streamers without having an account with ATT TV? I still have Directv but would like to try out the system without becoming a subscriber at this time.
     
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    Supposedly, there’s been some reports that you can. But to be honest, it isn’t very speedy at loading apps and sometimes the box will crash if you switch apps too often.
     

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