What you are describing here might be a valid issue... I could see where it might be a problem... but it's not the issue that most are talking about with lack of EPG data (because Dish hasn't uplinked it). I have a variant of the problem you speak of where Dish uplinked a sub-channel of a local PBS station BUT for some reason linked the EPG data to two different PBS sub-channels (4.2 and 4.3)... They have correct EPG data in their uplink stream for channel 4.2 but insist on linking the identical 4.3 data also to 4.2... That could be a glitch, but if so it is one they need to address because giving wrong EPG is actually worse than giving no EPG data in my opinion. Compound that with Dish trying to do away with DishPass timers and manual timers on the 922 receiver... and you have a scenario where you can't schedule anything on these OTA channels without proper EPG data even if you know what time a program comes on. Dish has themselves made the need for accurate EPG data for sub-channels even more important.