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Discussion in 'Sports Programming and Events' started by Smthkd, Aug 4, 2007.
Okay now that Bonds* got it, lets move along and enjoy the rest of the season. I guess I'll have to find something else to watch when I get home from work for the rest of the week. I’m sure Bonds* will be the only topic of discussion on SportsCenter.
Did anybody notice that a NY METS fan got the 756 ball!! :lol:
Didn't Lyle Alzado use steroids? Didn't he also play for the Raiders?
Did anybody notice the message from Henry Aaron? CLASS!!! I don't remember what phrase he used during his message, but I remember thinking that he just wanted people to drop all of the "cheater", "asterisk", etc. comments.
Noting that all along Aaron has been trying to AVOID Bonds and the chase even going so far as to say he hoped to be out of the country when it was broken. And considering ESPN stated they had been negotiating for a month with him to make SOME kind of statement, that was a CLASSLESS thing to do. It just goes to show money talks and Bonds, Aaron and Robinson's BS walk.
Any statement from Aaron concerning ESPN would have been done on their network, not on the scoreboard. That had nothing to do with ESPN. Frank Robinson was stuck at the game as part of his job, not by choice.
It wasn't just on ESPN it had been reported elsewhere that Aaron was negotiating with Selig about that "statement". He got paid off to say that. To me thats selling out on his true beliefs.
I doubt money would have exchanged hands between Selig and Aaron. They're very good friends.
By the way, what about Alzado cheating? Does that not count? People said very little about the NFL players using steroids (even when it was against their rules) yet are up in arms about baseball players.
Nope your right, Lyle did roids and he paid for it with his life.
My point is the following:
Why is it okay for the Raiders to use steroids but not Bonds? Don't condemn one and call him a "cheater" and then say it's okay for the others.
Because Barry Balco IS a cheat!!
The bottom line comes down to this. There are still questions about the supposed "grand jury leak" is actually accurate. However, Alzado admitted to using steroids. So the only thing I can say is that we know Alzado was a cheater and we don't KNOW that Bonds was. It's funny how he hasn't failed a test yet many others have.
I haven't seen any reports claiming the grand jury leak was inaccurate.
Seems like he clearly admitted to taking the clear.
His excuse is downright LAUGHABLE when you consider that around the league, Bonds is known for being the most strict intake player nutrition wise.
He hasn't failed a test yet because the p***y union won't permit HGH testing!!! You have Balco Barry, Jason Giambalco, Mark McGwire, Raphael Palmero, and on and on. Don't you wonder WHY Sammy Sosa looks so small now compared to the last time he played?!! BECAUSE HE QUIT JUICING!!!
The problem, as I understand it, with HGH testing... is that right now the only test they have for it requires taking blood. Unlike the other drug tests that they can test from urine, taking a blood sample is an intrusive procedure and it is a difficult thing to force on someone.
I, for instance, do not take any drugs never have and never will... and am fine with random drug testing anytime anyplace... but I would not submit to a blood sample just for a drug test. I am hesitant to go to a doctor and give him a blood sample when I'm sick! So I'm not about to let joe tester stick a needle in me whenever he wants.
So I understand how difficult it is to get HGH testing in the works.
Bonds admitted before a grand jury that he took steroids. His testimony was leaked and printed in the "Game of Shadows" book. Bonds sued the authors...not because they said he used steroids and other illegal drugs...but because the grand jury testimony was supposed to be sealed. Bonds later dropped his lawsuit.
Bonds did test positive for amphetamines in 2006, which are banned by MLB. Being the good guy he is, Bonds blamed it on a teammate.
By the way, did you know Bonds' trainer....Greg Anderson....is in jail for refusing to testify about Bond's steriod use?:eek2:
I have actually heard of several reports where there is question of the grand jury "leak". Bonds has admitted to the amphetamines, which have been around baseball for years. Yes, Bonds did say something about Mark Sweeney and then came out and said that is not true. I'm not sure why Anderson is refusing to testify.
What is remarkable that he tied Aaron's record by homering off of Clay Hensley, who has tested positive for steroids. Nobody has said a word about Hensley, but they squawk about Bonds. If we remove Bonds's home runs, what other records do we remove? Do we have a Salem witch hunt? If people want to criticize Bonds but not the NFL players who used steroids for years, they are hypocrites. I especially find it hypocritical to slam Bonds when the only non-track athletes on this list of athletes who received drugs from BALCO are Bill Romanowski, Dana Stubblefield, Barret Robbins, and Chris Cooper, all members of the Oakland Raiders. Should the name be changed to the Oakland "Roiders"? Do we take away all of the rushing records back to Jim Brown? Many players have apparently used steroids in MLB and far more in the NFL. We just have to remember the era in which these records occurred. A lot of the reason that people don't want Bonds to have the record is also because of his personality, or lack thereof.
Where? Everything I have read has never questioned the report and Bonds himself nor his agent have ever said the leaked report was incorrect.
Bonds only admitted it after he tested positive. Bonds has said repeatedly that he never has tested positive for illegal drug use...well, he has. Bonds also blamed the teammate, Sweeney, and then Sweeney's attorney said Mark NEVER gave Bonds ANYTHING.
Sure you do. Put 2+2 together and you have the answer.
Who cares about Hensley? Is Hensley breaking the most sacred record in baseball? People who consistently bring up some no-name player testing positive are just making themselves look like they want to run away from Bonds and his past.
Sorry but dont blame bonds, the whole sport is tainted, not bonds. Its a known fact that the greats back in the day did drugs as well, were they the same? Sorry guys but ragging out on Bonds is not right. Just my 2 cents.