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Be HONEST NOW! How many pd for (or will pay for) MRV who SWORE they wouldn't?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by TBlazer07, May 16, 2010.

  1. May 17, 2010 #41 of 149
    djrobx

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    I SWORE I would not pay for it, if it didn't work well. Then they made it work well. :)
     
  2. May 18, 2010 #42 of 149
    thekochs

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    Me too....but it is in the "hope" that DirecTV creates the remote scheduling function of DVR-to-DVR like they have from HD-to-DVR. To me this really strengthens the appeal and I think also they could market this as "increased/maximize your storage space". Also, I think it really helps in the fact that if your local DVR is tapped out on tuners to have the available tuners popup for the remote DVRs to assign the recording to.....so you maximize your netwrorked tuner hardware use as well. :D
     
  3. May 18, 2010 #43 of 149
    Mike Bertelson

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    Works great for me. :shrug:
     
  4. May 18, 2010 #44 of 149
    msmith

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    I caved, but mainly so that I wouldn't end up in a technological backwater. And the gain control of the SWM will help in bad weather.
     
  5. May 18, 2010 #45 of 149
    Clemsole

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    Still not going to pay one cent for MRV.
     
  6. May 18, 2010 #46 of 149
    Doug Brott

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    If you're not going to miss it, then clearly you should not spend any money on it. That being said, MRV really does work great and many folks can attest to that. If it's not working properly for you then something in your configuration isn't optimized for MRV traffic. If you have Wireless or Powerline as part of the solution, then that is the problem. DECA is definitely the best solution for this problem, but wired Ethernet works quite well also. Wireless and Powerline are dependent on the environment and are much less likely to be successful than the other solutions.

    Folks should simply stay away from those two solutions unless there simply is no other way to make it happen.
     

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  7. May 18, 2010 #47 of 149
    jefbal99

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    I believe i said I was disappointed by DirecTV wanting a monthly fee, however, I don't think I said I wouldn't pay it. For how much my family uses MRV, $3/month is a bargain.

    I am very glad that I was able to get it enabled using my current home network :)
     
  8. May 18, 2010 #48 of 149
    cnmurray8

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    I always new I would pay but I am a DIY and I can not get anyone willing to turn it on for me!!
     
  9. May 18, 2010 #49 of 149
    t_h

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    Well lets see. I'm paying up for it because without it the 50 series link limit per receiver makes the product practically unusable for us. But I removed the HD extra pack and dropped the protection plan at the same time because if they were going to squeeze my budget for a feature that many other DVR providers offer for free, I decided to squeeze back.

    Plus I'm somewhat less satisfied with directv as a result, and getting less.

    So they're out ~$8/mo and have a less satisfied customer. Not much of a win.

    Looks like a fair number of other people are taking this moment to trim off an extra receiver or fee while they're activating it.

    I doubt it'll be a big 'mom and pop' feature either. The number of homes with a dvr and one or more extra HD receivers that would ante up $150 to install DECA without ever having seen MRV will be a pretty small slice, I think.

    The enthusiasts here, many if not most of which have seen the product work for free and gotten used to it, arent a very good representation of the real world.
     
  10. May 18, 2010 #50 of 149
    FHSPSU67

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    I plead Guilty, your honor. I didn't really know anything about DECA at the time, and how nice it was going to be:)
     
  11. May 18, 2010 #51 of 149
    spartanstew

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    In a lot of those cases, they would have trimmed off an extra receiver (or other) as soon as they got MRV anyway. So, the $3 is still extra revenue for D*, and as much as I wish there were no fee, it does sound like a wise decision on D*'s part. They're making (or will make) a lot more revenue than they're potentially losing.
     
  12. May 18, 2010 #52 of 149
    t_h

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    Huh? You add 3 and remove 6 and get a positive income result? If thats the math they were using and how they justified the MRV fee, they probably should have avoided developing the feature if many customers would drop a receiver as a result.

    Statistically, when you raise a customers bill or introduce a new charge, the majority stop and look at their total bill and many make changes...both increased services and cutting back services. Most customers dont even look at their monthly bills until something changes and draws their attention.

    Of course most of that data was gleaned when the economy was doing well and times were good. I havent seen any broad based studies of how this all works in a recession but I'm going to guess that the recent package price increases and a $3 MRV fee would result in most people cutting something back. Either dropping a few PPV's a month, a receiver, a sports package or reducing their subscription level.

    Except for dropping a single PPV, most everything on the directv menu is a lot more than $3 a month. I guess we'll see how it works out for them. I doubt its a major impact to their bottom line either way as I suspect only a low double digit percentage of customers will opt for it.

    What might have been smart would have been to give the service away for free if you were doing it on your own network with a lot of caveats about it probably not working well without DECA, let people sign up for it and see the benefits, then see those people opt for the DECA install and a $3/mo fee.

    Same way we all got sucked in. Sadly I already dumped my powerline stuff, ran a wire and put in a gigabit router and switch to make this work right, so I'm not really interested in laying out $150 for yet another subnet in my house on yet another media.
     
  13. May 18, 2010 #53 of 149
    Doug Brott

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    I think you're missing the point .. With MRV, people probably would have done the same dropping anyway .. So it's still a +3 from what it would have been. Or if you want to add it all as in your example, it's a -3 instead of a -6.
     
  14. May 18, 2010 #54 of 149
    Doug Brott

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    Mom & Pop will, in general, have an HD-DVR in the living room and an HD Receiver in the bedroom (for those that have taken HD Services). MRV gives them the option to watch their recorded programs in the bedroom.

    I think this is a powerful addition for the general populace.

    $150 is really not that much money considering most of these folks have no clue what to do .. They just drop the $150 and now they can watch recorded shows in both rooms. Plus if they are good customers, they'll get discounts just like others are getting. This will be a well liked feature ..
     
  15. May 18, 2010 #55 of 149
    Doug Brott

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    Most providers (including the highly mentioned UVerse) have buried the MRV fee into the receiver fee. If you don't want to pay on principle, then by all means don't. There are a few folks here that have chosen that route.
     
  16. May 18, 2010 #56 of 149
    CuriousG

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    I'm a custom AV designer by trade. This is a HUGE feature for DirecTV in my business.
     
  17. May 18, 2010 #57 of 149
    Mike Bertelson

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    This has been discussed to death in many threads. The other providers have some kind of whole home fee buried in their hardware costs.

    Don’t take my word for it. Do what I did and look at all your local service providers and you will find out for yourself.

    Mike
     
  18. May 18, 2010 #58 of 149
    tcusta00

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    I trimmed an entire package from my bill, and will be removing a receiver from my account shortly. I used to have Total Choice HD DVR (or something like that) but cut back to Family a few months back because 90% of our TV watching is on the locals and a few of the 220-230 range channels. Yeah, we're missing a few shows we used to watch on COM and a couple others but it's worth it to save $30 a month.

    So, yep, they won my $3 MRV fee. Enjoy that $3, DIRECTV, while I enjoy my $27. :lol:
     
  19. May 18, 2010 #59 of 149
    Canis Lupus

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    I moved from TotalChoice+ and HDDVR to ChoiceExtraHDDVR, so that was 1.50. Then I added MRV for $3.

    Then I was offered, and took, Starz for 1 year, free SHO for 3 months and a $20/mo credit on my bill for 1 year.

    Aug 15th I cancel SHO (unless they choose to extend it for free), May 15th, 2011 I cancel Starz (unless again they choose to extend the credit offer).

    Since I already have HBO, it's $11 for Starz + 1.50 + 3 = 15.50

    So I'm ahead 4.50 for a year or until they raise prices again - whichever comes first.

    I of course would have added MRV anyway. It's a no-brainer in my house.
     
  20. May 18, 2010 #60 of 149
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    CL you did good
     

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