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beIN Sport USA Channels

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Rebollos, Jul 14, 2012.

  1. freshtrinity46

    freshtrinity46 New Member

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    Is it possible to watch the test channels? I have the newest HD DVR receiver
     
  2. gutshot74

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    This is also good for USMNT fans who want to keep track of Jozy Altidore, who had a breakout year with AZ Alkmaar last campaign.

    Let's hope that GolTV and the Bundesliga either stays with English HD, or that it makes a return soon. The more leagues in HD, the better in my opinion.
     
  3. gutshot74

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    Really? I mean, Really?

    Let's be clear - spoiling scores = mentioning other scores midmatch. ESPN has gotten it completely wrong and are one of the worst at this, when it comes to their Premier League coverage. Fans record matches to watch later, and in my opinion, spoiling the scores of other in-progress matches makes watching other games much less enjoyable. There is nothing that beats watching 90 minutes of soccer not knowing the outcome.

    Hopefully beInSport is savvy with this. I think Phil and Ray have been around the block long enough to know that it would piss of many American footie fans to have their other recordings ruined by score mentions.

    A postgame highlights show that mentions scores? Sure! I'll be sure not to record that. Just don't be doing that midmatch.
     
  4. xavi6

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    Nope. Test channels are meant only for Directv engineering purposes. Although they usually test for 7 days, so Wednesday might be the day it officially launches.
     
  5. xavi6

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    I guess I should have elaborated. BEIN is smart to broadcast a Spanish only channel for all of the above mentioned. My real point was that Directv couldn't launch two channels with very similar content right away because of the limited satellite space and bandwidth.
     
  6. inkahauts

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    Ah, well different perspectives. I completely disagree, I see no reason they can't launch it as it looks like they are moving to all six channels per transponder and they have a couple transponders free. Add that to the fact I wouldn't be surprised if they launched the all Spanish channel off 119, which I also half expect them to use for the Spanish Lakers network... I guess we will see at some point.
     
  7. tonyd79

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    If they put the Spanish channel on 119, you are right. If they plan on putting it on the main birds, bandwidth is still precious and if there is SAP on the first channel, then I can see it differently. Have we got any word about anything on 119?
     
  8. xavi6

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    As the consumer of course you can't see why they don't just load up their transponders with channels. I can tell you that there are many reasons why they don't though, mostly for flexibility in case of emergencies, satellites or otherwise.

    Do I want more HD channels? Of course I do, it's just that launching satellites is not that simple.

    I think you'll most likely get what you want, it will just take a while longer than you would like.
     
  9. inkahauts

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    False. I am not looking at it as a consumer. If they had a few transponders die, it would not be an issue in the short term, only the immediate term while they reworked their sat. Every sat has extra transponders they could fire up to replace any bad ones. I get tired of hearing people say they have to save bandwidth for emergencies on active transponders, if that where true 101 would not be full, as that's the only sat that all consumers get. The only time they would be screwed is if an entire sat had a catastrophic failure, in which case it would take a massive effort, To rearrange the majority of their channels and holding out a handful of channels would be so arbitrary it would have no real affect on that kind of mess. There are other reasons why they may not add it, but that's just not one of them that makes any sense at all.

    And what hearth does time have to do with having space available other than a change in technology that allows for more channels, and the launching of a new sat. Emergency space just makes zero sense. If that where the case, they would stop adding channels when they got half filled on all satelites.

    I was however assuming that they have a contract that allows them to carry both channels. I also made the supposition that it makes sense to put the all spanish ones onto the 119 sat and add it to their Spanish package (I haven't checked in a while, but last time I did there was room there for it, anyone know about how much room there is for Hi Definition channels on that sat?). This means they would not be using space for any other channels that aren't in the Spanish language. (granted, it appears they could easily launch it at 99 or 103 too, without any real space concerns based on what's going on that we are seeing, but we don't necessarily know how much space they have available today for we don't know what other channels are ahead of it to be launched right now from a core location. (we only know for sure they have two transponders completely empty, and that they are moving to six channels a transponder slowly but surely) Of course, we don't know if they don't suddenly have ten channels also waiting to launch off 119 in spanish, but I doubt that's the case.)

    A channel like this would absolutely enhance the Spanish package, and therefore holding it out for any reason other than not having a contract in place or having the tech and uplink from the broadcaster in place to add it is silly from a business standpoint, again assuming they already have the contract in place to carry it. We know this channel would not raise the price of the programing package either, assuming the reports we have seen are correct about pricing as well. And I have a hard time with the idea that they would create a path for one channel, and not set it up for both to get it to directv.

    I think that if they don't have this channel on launch, it has nothing to do with space or technology, and maybe all the other things going on around the channel based that he questions of what's going to be on it and so on in the first place.

    Oh, and in this channels case, I don't really care if we do get it, my point is that it's one that makes a lot of sense to pick up for a lot of reasons.
     
  10. GiantsFan383

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    I could be wrong but dish is testing bein on 119 and 72.7 so it could be in hd.
     
  11. James Long

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    Both of DISH's test feeds are SD. The one on 72.7 is for their MPEG4 "Eastern Arc" service.
    DISH is not currently testing a HD feed of beIN.
     
  12. GiantsFan383

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    Ok thanks
     
  13. Sandra

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    I'm a little confused here. Has it been announced that DirecTV is dropping GolTV? If not...why are some assuming there are dropping it? Why can't DirecTV simply add a soccer channel without also deleting one?


    Sandra
     
  14. maartena

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    The suggestion was made after it was discovered that DirecTV is using the same channel number in test (9620 vs live 620) as GOLTV, which would indicate that the channel might be replaced.

    Now could this change? Sure, nothing is set in stone. It is just a assumption that has been made at this point.

    We'll probably know by Wednesday.
     
  15. Rebollos

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    As of right now we´re assuming that beIN will be on Directv and Dish, nothing official from beIN or providers........but plenty time until August 15th to switch providers. Good job beIN that´s the way to start a new channel, and then explain how it won´t be a beIN 2 channel.......congrats
     
  16. ProgPic

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    The current rumor is that GolTV was paid off by BeIN for the 620 channel location and will remain at 426 with both English and Spanish available via SAP. I can't say whether or not this is true but it's been reported on various other websites.
     
  17. dpeters11

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    We're not assuming anything regarding DirecTV. I don't believe there ever has been a case where there's been a test channel that didn't actually get picked up.
     
  18. Rebollos

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    My point is that beIN is launching on August 15th and there´s no official announcement regarding providers, so anybody that would like to have that channel and needs to switch providers won´t have enought time to do so before August 15th........and that´s not the way to start a channel....
     
  19. xavi6

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    Are you an attorney? lol Anyhow, entire satellites do go down more often than you think. Of course this information is kept under wraps, so unless you work in the bizz you won't really know. But you of course are probably right, there are other reasons why these channels are not added right away. Based on my experience it usually has to deal with money and contracts. Honestly, I don't even think BEIN2 is even ready.

    I'm not sure what federal regulations coincide with satellite broadcasting over the United States airspace, but I'm sure there are specifics. Again, these are my own assumptions that you have every right to disagree with.

    Speculation can be fun.

    You make an awful lot of assumptions about contracts and what is sound business practice. Contracts are hammered out by teams behind closed doors, it's not such a simple practice.

    I agree. I think it has more to do with BEIN not securing the rights to all their proposed programming than anything else.

    Agreed. You are right to a degree that there is room on specific satellite transponders to include more services, my only point was that there are broadcast reasons that we can only speculate on as to why they don't. Maybe federal regulations, maybe proprietary reasons, who knows?
     
  20. maartena

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    Yeah, that is typical.

    It was actually quite uncommon that DirecTV's Facebook account revealed the coming of BBC America and NatGeoWild in HD, usually they wait till after the test feeds are up.

    If no one from DirecTV drops a hint, we usually find out by Sixto's daily scans of satellite changes.

    So it comes to no surprise that no one is announcing anything official.

    Also, a test feed does not mean it will go live. It is 99% certain it will, but there is a chance that the feed will REMAIN in test for longer until the last bits of the deal are ironed out.

    Unlike the other 4 channels that will be launched in HD, this isn't an existing network, but a new one.

    We'll probably know by Wednesday what really is going to happen.
     

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