Belo agrement expires NOV 1st at midnight/Resolved

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by skihoodoo, Oct 10, 2011.

  1. Oct 10, 2011 #1 of 149

    skihoodoo AllStar

    Oct 17, 2008
  2. Oct 11, 2011 #2 of 149
    Go Beavs

    Go Beavs Hall Of Fame

    Nov 18, 2008
    Well, they've got a couple weeks left to come to an agreement. Let's hope they do.
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    espnjason Armchair Referee

    Sep 30, 2008
    I apologize for going slightly off-topic.

    If DBS providers (both D* and E*) are more or less required to eventually carry every LiL station within a particular time period, then shouldn't the DBS providers become exempt from the Retransmission Consent rules? I sense both D* and E* are rather placed in a predicament and the local station networks are trying to extort the DBS providers.

    To the OP, I know the above question is not directed to you, but to someone that may be at the inside.

    Now in reply to the first post, Belo has quite a station portfolio and I doubt D* would let that one slip. Otherwise Belo would be another example of what I said above.
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    tbirds118 Mentor

    May 28, 2009
    The fact that KING still lists Law and Order as a show that I will be missing out on if it goes away shows how much they actually care about the network programming. What they really want to make sure happens is that people keep watching their news.
  5. Oct 11, 2011 #5 of 149

    mnassour Icon

    Apr 23, 2002
    Well, there's a long list of Belo stations, assuming they're all involved. Here in Austin, KVUE went public with its whining on the website yesterday.

    Actually, the way retrans works is that 1) the local station can demand carriage or 2) the local station can choose to charge for carriage. Guess which one the network stations want and which one the little indies want. ;)
  6. Oct 11, 2011 #6 of 149

    welshdalek Cool Member

    Apr 26, 2009
    I noticed my local affiliate (AZFamily) advertising this last night - they also posted on

    I hope this gets concluded - I like my local news readers!
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    Maleman Icon

    Apr 17, 2007
    I can't imagine a deal won't get done?? I would be shocked.
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    deramirez New Member

    Apr 21, 2006
    KGW ran an ad during their newscast warning DirecTV viewers of the deadline.

    question: I live in Portland, and have a HR21-700 with an AM21 off-air receiver. If the satellite feed for KGW goes away, will I still be able to record the off-air signal via the AM21? Would they remove the off-air channel from the guide information as well?
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    machavez00 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 2, 2006

    Fortunately, both(KTVK & KASW) are listed in the OTA guide for MY HR20
    DirecTV needs to stick it the locals by allowing our OTA tuners to scan for locals and free up the bandwidth used for LIL's for more HD channels(yeah, I know they are spot beams!) Can you imagine what would happen when D* announces they are doing that!
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    SEAKevin AllStar

    Jul 8, 2006
    There was an ad on KING this morning alerting viewers to contact DirecTV to tell them you want to keep getting NBC blah blah.

    They better get it done.
  11. Oct 11, 2011 #11 of 149

    say-what Active Member

    Dec 14, 2006
    New Orleans
    WWL (CBS) in New Orleans ran ads last night about the Belo negotiations

    At least I can watch OTA with a small indoor antenna if no deal gets done. My parents live further away and I'd have to install an outdoor antenna for them.
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    Crystal Pepsi Ball

    Crystal Pepsi Ball Godfather

    Jun 29, 2004
    West Valley...
    OTA would not go away.
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    TBoneit Hall Of Fame

    Jul 27, 2006
    Station owners are getting greedy and you say DirecTV better get it done or are you referring to the station?

    I've always kept basic cable in the house + cable internet for backup purposes.

    I can get pretty good looking Recordings on my Hard drive equipped DVD recorder from the Cable HD channels. 720 by 480 Widescreen. They lok as good as a commercial DVD does. I set it for 30 second fwd skip and 10 second rev skip to deal with commercials.

    The big flaw with DirecTV OTA support is if they don't provide data it won't record.
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    TBoneit Hall Of Fame

    Jul 27, 2006
    I have a recollection that Dishnetwork was supplying OTA antennas during some locals squabble. Am I remembering wrong?

    How would that impact negotiations if DirecTV told them we are going to do the same and help our customers that way. The stations don't want just plain eyes watching these days for the added advertising revenue these days they want that plus cash from every subscriber whether they watch the channel or not.

    They want to have their cake and eat it too.
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    evan_s Hall Of Fame

    Mar 3, 2008
    Off hand I think that the station asking for money to allow it to be carried automatically excludes it from the must carry requirement. They can either force DirecTV to carry the channel and provide it for free or ask for money but DirecTV is no longer required to carry it. Obviously, a station that is part of a major network is counting on the fact that DirecTV would have lots of upset customers if the channel isn't available to allow them to come to an agreement.
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    MikeW Hall Of Fame

    May 16, 2002
    From (found in program guide on chan 3.1 in Phoenix)

    DIRECTV is working with Belo Television, the owner of one of the local broadcast stations serving your community, to continue providing its local news and network programs beyond Nov. 1 when our current agreement expires. We value the Belo stations and are negotiating diligently to reach an equitable agreement with them.
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    MikeW Hall Of Fame

    May 16, 2002
    Most of the HD locals are included in the OTA guide. 3.1 and 61.1 are both available with the proper OTA equipment. The problem would be for those who can't get a signal.
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    mortimer Legend

    Nov 5, 2007
    Time to break out the OTA antenna, just in case. I doubt consumers like me can do much to influence the negotiations. But I am not going to miss out on Saturday college football if the deal doesn't get done. Might also mean moving my HR20 back to the big TV.
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    Visman Legend

    Feb 16, 2008
    Houston, TX
    The Local CBS Station here in Houston is owned by Belo. I wondering if their is no agreement by Nov 1st will we be able to get the DNS CBS Stations on 390 and 391.
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    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    OTA isn't going anywhere but the concern is if DIRECTV removes the OTA channel from their guide, the AM21 will no longer be able to tune the channel. This seems unlikely.

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