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Best Buy Receiver Not Leased??

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by StangGT909, Oct 15, 2009.

  1. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    I checked mine, and found out all are leased (even though I purchased me HR20-700 before Best Buy started notifying customers that they were a lease item. I did find out the hearts are back, and I can get another HD DVR for $99 :)
     
  2. rudeney

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    Actually, I think you meant "Leased Recevier" instead of "Mirrored Receiver". For example, here is how y bill appears:

    12/17 Additional Receiver 5.00

    12/17 Additional Receiver 5.00

    12/17 Leased Receiver 5.00

    12/17 Leased Receiver 5.00

    12/17 Leased Receiver 5.00

    12/17 Primary Leased Receiver 5.00


    As far as I can tell, I am taxed on the $20 of "leased" fees but not the "additional" fees.
     
  3. CJTE

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    My primary receiver is an owned D11-500. On my bill, it shows up as add'l receiver $5, and then after all the other receivers, I see a line item credit for primary add'l receiver...
     
  4. The Merg

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    Yup. My bad. You still got the point though... :)

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  5. rjdafoe

    rjdafoe New Member

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    Even TWC got rid of these stupid mirror fees years ago. Sat providers should do the same.
     
  6. BattleScott

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    eh? they sure haven't gotten rid of any fees in this area.
     
  7. Jeremy W

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    TWC is giving away free receivers? I highly doubt that.
     
  8. CCarncross

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    Every cable provider I have ever heard of and still currently know about charges a monthly fee for every set top box in the house. Unless you want just the basic channels that your tv's tuner can pull in, they get you.
     
  9. hdtvfan0001

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    No at so in WI or OH at least....in fact....there are rumors they are raising their prices for their boxes per unit...
     
  10. rjdafoe

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    Not the same thing. You can't call it a service mirror fee or a fee to get programing on the box and then compare it with a lease monthly payment from cable.

    Those fees are a lease fee for the set top receiver. Cable had these mirror fees years ago, even when there were no set top boxes. And yes, you can still get cable without a set top box without a "mirror" fee.

    Before you say that it is the same thing, consider the fact that there is no up front cost of getting a receiver from TWC and, at least in my area, no commitement either.

    I have had a combination of Sat (either DTV or Dish) for over 10 years now. I would not go back to cable, but come on. Even when the receivers were not leased, this fee was there per receiver. It is even there if you were to pay full price for an owned reciever.
     
  11. BattleScott

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    As far as I know, you can't "own" a digital cable box from TWC, so there is no comparison to be made. If you could, do you think they would give you the programming access for it at no charge?

    They are lease fees with the sat providers as well, so they are the same.

    This is only true with analog cable, not digital. DBS Sat is all digital so it has no equivalent product to compare to analog cable.

    No upfront cost, but much higher monthly fee. Even at a full upfront fee of $200 for a DirecTV HD DVR, it doesn't take long for extra $12 a month charged by TWC to offset that fee. Then the longer you have it the more the cable DVR ends up costing vs. the SAT DVR.

    So, like the first item, you don't think you should be charged for programming on additional receivers that you "own"? Again, TWC does not allow "ownership" of the digital STBs, so there is really no comparison to be made. But, even if they did allow it, I would bet there would be a fee for programming access on it.
     
  12. harsh

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    You can "own" the "box", but as it is with satellite, you don't "own" the access card.
     
  13. wingrider01

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    hmm anyone htat disagrees with you is a DTV employee? Wonder why I have never gotten a paycheck from them.

    2 years is not "locking you in for life" and the units I have seen at BB specificly have a large sticker stating that it is a LEASED unit
     
  14. Upstream

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    It is also true with digital cable (at least with digital Comcast in my area). Comcast provides up to 4 digital converters at no cost. So you can hook up 4 TVs with no additional mirroring or equipment costs. Granted these are basic converters, without bells and whistles. But for me, it is perfect for the 19-inch SD television in the spare bedroom that would cost me $60 per year with DirecTV.
     
  15. CCarncross

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    Consider yourself lucky, Comcast charges about $6 per basic digital box per month here. There is no up to 4 at no cost option here at all. Judging on many of the other responses it appears similar in many other places as well. Your area appears to the exception, not the norm for Comcast.
     
  16. carl6

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

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    The digital converters Comcast provides at no added cost (in this general area) are very basic devices that give you the equivalent of channels 30 through 99. They do not provide any of the other digital cable services. This is because Comcast has converted everything except the first 20 or so channels to digital (in an attempt to get enough bandwidth to add a little more HD). However, if you want full digital service you have to rent an additional digital receiver (and pay for it).

    There are conditions and limits on who can get these free converters, and how many you can get.
     
  17. rabit ears

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    Just to set the record straight.

    I was in BB for another purchase and happened to look at the D* equipment. They had several boxes out and every one of them had a yellow message in a red highlight box that said "This is a leased receiver, the fee shown is for the initial receiver lease."

    The type was about 30 points (estimate I didn't measure) and very prominent. I don't see how anyone could "purchase" one of these units and not understand the owned/leased situation.

    While I would prefer an owned vs. leased situation, there's no question that D* isn't being sneaky or hiding the information.

    Happy Holidays to all!
     
  18. BattleScott

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    I can only speak to TWC here in Ohio, which charges $7.95 for each additional box and $16.90 for each additional DVR.

    So for me, 1 HD and 1 SD DVR costs $11 month including the DVR fee. The same would cost $17 from TWC.
     
  19. The Merg

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    That's true today. However, even a year ago, things weren't so clearly defined to the purchaser. Especially, if you purchased via DirecTV. They were not very clear in articulating that the purchase price was an up-front lease fee.

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  20. rjdafoe

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    Yes, they have for years until a set top box was required to get certain stations. Then the addition of a lease for the set top box was added.

    No, they are not:

    I was responding to the above. You cannot call it a lease fee if you are considereing it a programming mirror fee. The lease fee is up front at that point. I am not argueing what is more expensive or not.

    No I don't. I should pay for the programing to come into my house. Just like I pay for telephone, internet, gas (service charge part), and electric (service charge part) to come into my house.
     

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