Big Brother Season 17

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  1. Sep 3, 2015 #201 of 249
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    Reminder: Big Brother will air in some markets including Las Vegas at 11:35 pm due to preseason football tonight.
     
  2. Sep 3, 2015 #202 of 249
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    Reminder: Double eviction tonight.
     
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    Morty's Thoughts
    "Big Brother gave the HGs a brief diversion today [yesterday, actually - H], a hint at what a competition might be like tomorrow [today, actually - H]. Of course, we don't know if it would be the HoH competition or the Veto competition or any competition for that matter.

    Julia and Liz seemed to be having the most success, but will both of them be in the competition? Austin seems to be set on saving Julia (big surprise) but can James convince Steve to side with him and John? More importantly, will John and Steve stick together and if so, will they do so against Meg or Julia?

    After having a hushed conversation with John, Steve tells Vanessa he could vote out Julia if he had Austin's blessing. Is he speaking for himself and John, or is he just feeling Vanessa out to see how she reacts?

    Vanessa's response is to suggest Steve let her handle the social game and to stick with Austwins.

    Now that Steve knows where Vanessa stands (with the Austwins, Steve is the 5th man out), what will he do with the information? What will Johnny Mac do? How they vote will kick-start the double eviction and could change the course of the game."
     
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  5. Sep 4, 2015 #205 of 249
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    Eviction Results
    By a vote of 4-1, Meg was Evicted
    Liz Won HoH
    Liz Nominated James & Johnny Mac
    Julia Won the PoV
    Julia Did Not Use the PoV
    By a vote of 4-0 James was Evicted
    Steve Won HoH!
     
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    The Backstabbing Begins...
    Vanessa tells Steve that nominating Austin and Liz is the best plan.
     
  8. Sep 5, 2015 #208 of 249
    Henry

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    Nominations
    Steve Nominated Austin and Liz for Eviction
     
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    PoV Winner
    Austin Won PoV
     
  10. Sep 6, 2015 #210 of 249
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  11. Sep 6, 2015 #211 of 249
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    Fuskie Recaps Yesterday (a Must-Read)
    "Today couldn’t have worked out better if Steve and Jmac hadn’t planned to throw the Veto comp and force either Vanessa or the Austwins to win it. It was a slow fuse of nervous energy from the moment Steve made his nominations of Liz and Austin, with Vanessa, of course, in the middle pushing each of the other HG into a favorable direction should they win the Veto.
    Liz, Austin and Julia knew that if Julia won Veto, she could save Liz and force Steve to nominate either John or Vanessa. They would work on him to nominate John. They had a plan. There was a kind of calm before the Veto comp.
    Then Mr. Pectacular arrived and all hell broke loose!
    As best we can tell, the comp was an elimination game hosted by Jesse. Austin was in awe. So was Julia when she got a look at his arms. And maybe Austin got carried away from being in Jesse’s magnificent presence, or maybe he didn’t think about what he was doing, or maybe underneath his self-deluded idea of romance he’s really just as selfish as all the other HG (except maybe Steve). But Austin had the chance to throw the comp to Julia and instead he claimed the Power of Veto for himself. Having Jessie place the Veto around his neck was one of his happiest moments, he said. It would be short lived and his world came crashing down.
    Liz was upset that Austin showed his true character taking the Veto for himself and not letting Julia win it. He’s no Clay, Vanessa slyly tells her. Julia tells Liz he never had any intention of saving her, he’s been playing you all along. Austin says he had to win it himself because Vanessa made it clear he was the target when she helped Julia in the competition. Vanessa asks, who me? All I was doing was giving the same advice I’d have given anyone!
    There were tears, there was acrimony. Austin walking around with the Veto around his neck didn’t help his cause. And Steve and Johnny got front row seats to the greatest show this summer.
    Liz broke up with Austin because he put himself before her. Austin protested that he ruined his life for her (by entering into a showmance when he had a GF at home). Julia said she’s going to go up now and be evicted. Vanessa scampered from HG to HG offering self-serving advice. Steve was so upset about the heartache his HoH has caused, he even made a snack for the desolate Liz to eat. She drew it underneath the blanket in which she was hiding. He has engaged her in a chocolate fight and offered up his wine. Whether he’s genuinely sorry for her heartache or playing for her jury vote only a cynic can decide.
    Austin cooked chicken for Liz and Julia in the shape of hearts and asked Steve to deliver it, but once they found out who cooked it, they sent it back. Vanessa says it was sweet and can’t believe the twins turned it down because they like to eat.
    Ironically, it’s Julia who says at least Austin’s trying. On the bright side, she says, one of them will still be in the game and the rest of the house will go after each other.
    Vanessa tells Austin his best chance of winning is to have Julia beside him, and that she’s playing for him. Final Five, they congratulate each other.
    There’s an uneasy peace in the house now – Liz and Julia eventually reheated the food Austin prepared - but it’s clear a corner has been turned and Austwins will never be the same.
    Still, there is a lot of game to play. Steve has said Julia would be the replacement nominee if Austin uses the Veto, so even if he falls on his sword (like Clay) to save Liz, her sister would go up. Or is this a misdirection and he plans to blindside Vanessa?
    Assuming John will remain safe on Steve’s watch, it will have to be either Julia or Vanessa, unless Austin can be talked into not using it all. And don’t think Vanessa hasn’t thought about that."
     
  12. Sep 7, 2015 #212 of 249
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    Reminder: PoV Meeting/Ceremony Today
     
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    PoV Meeting/Ceremony Results
    Austin Used the PoV to Save Himself
    Steve Nominated Julia in Austin's Place
    On Thursday, either Julia or Liz will be evicted.

     
  14. Sep 8, 2015 #214 of 249
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    Fuskie's Thoughts
    "As expected, Austin used his Veto to save himself, ensuring his Final Five status along with Steve, who then played the odds and nominated Julia, ensuring that one of the twins would be evicted and the Austwins alliance would be at least cut down by 1/3.

    With the final nominations set, Vanessa and John also could breathe a sigh of relief that they were in the Final Five as well.

    Steve received compliments on his speech, which weren’t necessary since he no longer held anyone else’s game in his hands. He had again spent all night practicing his Veto speech, though it appears that despite increasingly losing trust in Vanessa, he never seriously considered putting her on the block. It might be the source of future discord, however, as Johnny Mac does seem to trust her.

    One interesting aspect to Steve’s HoH is how self-deprecating he has been. To Vanessa, to John, to Austin, Steve has hated what this game has forced him to do, worrying not just about Liz and Julia’s feelings but also their sister and parents at home. He doesn’t want the family to hate him too.

    Steve’s made it clear that while he really wanted this experience, once is enough and he wants to go back to a normal life when it’s over with no more reality TV. He’s been very candid this week talking about his high school and college years, his hopes and his regrets. Whether this is a calculated or genuine, we’ll have to see but I think he’ll be remembered in the game as having a big heart.

    Officially, Vanessa, Austin and John have all promised the twins that they’ll vote to evict whomever they decide, but behind their backs, Vanessa and John are pushing for Liz to be evicted. John slyly suggests that he should win the next HoH and then Vanessa the one after that.

    For her part, Vanessa keeps saying she’s playing for second place even as she positions herself to take the top prize with Final Two deals with everyone but Julia and Liz. Austin tells Julia is concerned that if JMac wins HoH this week, he and Steve will make it to the Final Two, which is entirely possible but certainly not guaranteed. More importantly, this may suggest that Austin and Julia may not be so easily parted with Liz’s eviction.

    For the first time this season that I’ve seen, a HG suggests Vanessa has been playing both sides of the house. Julia thinks she’ll throw HoH and make it to the Final Three. Liz says she doesn’t need the money. Vanessa interrupts the hot-tub conversation, but it’s interesting.

    We’ve already seen Steve questioning Vanessa’s truthfulness. If she doesn’t win HoH, would John, Julia, or Austin take a shot at her? Whenever Vanessa, Austin and the Twins get together in a group, the targets are always Steve and Johnny Mac, but that may just be cover for not talking about targeting each other.

    In any case, I think the house is settled on evicting Liz and instead of deliberating over the eviction, we can expect more of this subtle intrigue over the next few days."
     
  15. Sep 9, 2015 #215 of 249
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    Fuskie’s Take
    "There are some very strong women this season in BBUS17. Liz and Vanessa have used very different strategies to wrap the men in the house around their little fingers and effect their will on them.
    Liz has done it the old fashioned way – getting to Austin where he thinks instead of his head. His heart, I mean. Get your minds out of the gutter.
    With Steve, Liz has used different strategy, playing the bad twin while Julia plays up being the good twin and earning his trust. John, I think, they've written off as a lost cause.
    But if Julia thinks she can escape her domineering sister, this week should be a case study why she cannot.
    After telling the rest of the house they wanted to decide between themselves who would be evicted, they seemed to have settled on Julia having the best chance to get to the end because Liz would be too big of a target.
    Somehow by this afternoon, they had changed their minds and Julia was prepared to fall on her sword so that Liz could continue in the game, having the better chance of winning competitions.
    Vanessa, on the other hand, has that unique talent of leading a conversation but leaving you feel like you were in charge. She states ideas as facts, putting everyone else in the position of having to either deny her and risk being a target, or going along. At least on the surface. More on that further down. Vanessa, John and Austin are the vote holders this week and she had gained agreement among all three that Liz was the biggest threat to their game, making it an open question as to whether they would honor the twins' wishes or not.
    But of course, Vanessa never plays anything straight – she's concocted a Final Three deal with Steve that includes John because she knows Steve is tight with John, and she's pushed a final two deal with John (that doesn't include Steve), both of which are based on evicting Liz now, then Austin and Julia. However, she's promised Austin to honor the twins request to vote out Julia and secured a number of self-protecting concessions in the process. Is this for real or is she just playing him?
    Making the situation more confusing, Steve and the twins have professed to be deeply suspicious of Vanessa. But Steve has met with resistance trying to convince John, and Austin has been reticent when the twins bring up the subject. The hedging by both HGs should set the cloister bells ringing but whether anyone is listening to the warnings remains to be seen. It's entirely likely that however the vote goes on Thursday, Vanessa will feel comfortable enough to not win HoH and let John, Liz/Julia or Austin control nominations. Time will tell if that's a mistake or not."
     
  17. Sep 9, 2015 #217 of 249
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    Leslie Moonves (CBS chairman/CEO) Thought's on Big Brother 17:

    And yet you’re still involved on a micro level with a lot of decisions. I’ve heard you still play a role in signing off on the cast for Big Brother …

    "By the way, this wasn’t a great year for casting on Big Brother."

    Early on, the cast seemed pretty promising!

    "I agree. Usually you have one or two disappointments. I think we had five or six disappointments. Another discussion."

    Full Article (Vulture)
     
  18. Henry

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    More Fuskie Comments
    The twins are so self-absorbed in their self-pity at being nominated against each other they are losing focus in the game. In one breath they talk about how much they distrust Vanessa and how she played them. At the same time, they can think of nothing beyond evicting Steve next week out of revenge.

    Officially, Vanessa is telling Liz and Julia that the plan is still to evict Julia so Liz and Austin can go after Steve. The twins are sure Steve is nervous and scared. But Steve has his head in the game. Don’t take my word – listen to him:

    ""Next week, if John wins the HoH it does not matter because the replacement won't matter there will be three votes. If John or Vanessa wins which is my best scenario then Austin goes. If Austin or Liz wins then they will put a combination of me, John or Vanessa up, then they will be forced if we win veto to put their showmance up because there would be no people left. -- Steve""

    Couldn’t have said it better myself. All I would add is that if Austin or Liz went up against Steve, John or Vanessa, then the other two would control the vote. You can either have the power to nominate or the power to evict but you can’t both nominate and control the votes.

    My expectation is that Vanessa won’t want to win HoH this week. She’ll want to hold out to be the Final Four HoH, which guarantees her a spot in the Final Three. If she wins Final Five HoH, she cannot compete for Final Four HoH.

    This is the reason Steve gave for wanting to be HoH this week, because if he survives Final Five, he can compete for Final Four.

    In truth, Steve’s chances of making it through next week are about the same regardless of which twin goes Thursday. Maybe Liz has a better chance at winning a competition, but after 12 weeks of being played by Vanessa, either one would probably end up nominating John and Steve.

    One last note. Like Jeff Probst, I have very little respect for anyone who quits Survivor, and similarly I lose what respect I may have had for someone who throws in the towel on Big Brother. That goes for Clay, who is a nice guy but fell on his sword for Shelli for no good reason, and it goes for Julia who is giving up her game for her sister Liz. The irony is, I think if Julia had made it to the finale, she might have had a decent chance with the jury, especially if Liz, Austin, Steve and Shelli were voting. Unless she’s sitting against Vanessa. Anyone taking Vanessa to the Final Two is just playing for second place.

     
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    ... And A Programming Note From Morty

    "A couple notes about changes to the broadcast schedule for the rest of the season. NFL Football is coming to CBS next Thursday and there’s likely going to be a taped eviction over the final weekend leading into the Final Three HoH competition.
    This is what we expect:

    9/10/15 (Thu.) 9:00 PM CBS Live Eviction
    9/13/15 (Sun.) 8:30 PM CBS Nomination Episode
    9/15/15 (Tue.) 8:00 PM CBS Veto Episode
    9/16/15 (Wed.) 8:00 PM CBS
    9/20/15 (Sun.) 8:00 PM CBS
    9/23/15 (Wed.) 9:30 PM CBS 90 Minute Finale"

     

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