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Brainstorm: How should new HD channel selection work?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Aug 15, 2007.

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  1. Aug 15, 2007 #1 of 112
    Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

    Jun 18, 2006
    There are a number of HD channels coming on line and they are going to be mirrors of existing SD channels. How should that work?

    I think I read that the HD channels might be on the same channels as the SD ones, like RSNs and locals are now. That makes sense. But how could you quickly switch from one to the other?

    Do you think it would make sense if the SD ones were redesignated as -0, example 229-0 for SD where 229 is HD?

    Or if you input the number as 229, you get HD, as 0229 you get SD? Personally I like that one. I don't know if it would work with the current logic but it might.

    What do you all think?
  2. Aug 15, 2007 #2 of 112

    dtv757 Icon

    Jun 3, 2006
    757 & 718
    how about adding -1 for hd?? like OTA locals

    ex 4 = local network D* feed
    4-1 =OTA local network HD

    or 242=usa
    242-1 =USA HD

    ... just a thought

    the idea above is also good.
  3. Aug 15, 2007 #3 of 112
    Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

    Jun 18, 2006
    Not bad but could we do it in a way that would also work for HD locals, so you could select HD, SD or OTA from the remote number pad?
  4. Aug 15, 2007 #4 of 112

    spoonman Icon

    Feb 21, 2007
    I would like to just turn the SD stations off. Why do you need them if you have the HD ones? Maybe a menu setting or something?
  5. Aug 15, 2007 #5 of 112

    houskamp Active Member

    Sep 14, 2006
    I'm hoping they just put them in one spot (like the current 70's) so I can easily look at all the HD listings..
  6. Aug 15, 2007 #6 of 112

    durl Hall Of Fame

    Mar 27, 2003
    How about a menu option to decide whether SD or HD is tuned when you enter the channel number?

    History Channel is 269. The HD version could be 269-1 or 1269...whichever. In my HR20, the channels are "linked". I tell it that if an HD channel is available, go to that channel. I enter 269 and it goes to the HD version. How would that work?

    Just a wild thought. I feel like brainstorming today.
  7. Aug 15, 2007 #7 of 112
    Michael D'Angelo

    Michael D'Angelo Lifetime Achiever

    Oct 20, 2006
    Any channel that is full time 16x9 I would love for it to be this way. I hate having bars on the side.
  8. Aug 15, 2007 #8 of 112
    Michael D'Angelo

    Michael D'Angelo Lifetime Achiever

    Oct 20, 2006
    I wonder if DIRECTV could/would move the PPV channels some where else and have all HD channels from 70 to 199.
  9. Aug 15, 2007 #9 of 112
    Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

    Jun 18, 2006
    Would that be better than having them in the same channel slots as the SD ones?

    I'm sure with favorites lists you can turn off the SD ones if you want, but what if you want both for some reason. For example, KTLA-MPEG4 does its own scaling and distorting of SD progams and I don't like it. I'd prefer to watch SD programming on KTLA-SD. So both are available.
  10. Aug 15, 2007 #10 of 112

    kmkraft_1974 Legend

    Feb 13, 2006
    i like the idea of having all the HD channels together, so I can easily see what's on with a couple of page ups/page downs in the guide.

    right now, I've got my local HDs running right into the 70s HDs. I rarely venture further down into the 200s, much less the 300s.
  11. Aug 15, 2007 #11 of 112

    Spanky_Partain Active Member

    Dec 7, 2006
    I want to be able to add/delete any and every channel in the line up for my default settings and only give me the channels I receive.

    Taa daa.. :)
  12. Aug 15, 2007 #12 of 112

    DCSholtis Up The Irons!

    Aug 7, 2002
    Got an even better idea, though it would cut D*s revenues so it won't happen but move PPV to VOD thereby opening up those channels for HD.
  13. Aug 15, 2007 #13 of 112

    Hutchinshouse Hall Of Fame

    Sep 27, 2006
  14. Aug 15, 2007 #14 of 112

    cygnusloop Hall Of Fame

    Jan 26, 2007
    You know, I guess I'm just not a big fan of reusing the channel numbers in general. IMHO, it just creates a problem where one not need exist, as in the ambiguity in search or elsewhere, where only the channel number is referenced. I understand that it alleviates confusion for some, but in another way, it just seems to unnecessarily complicate things. But, I guess that ship has sailed, so sorry for the short rant.

    I don't think turning off the SD channels is a good idea, as I use the SD channels to record a program that I know is in SD instead of recording it on the HD version. It saves a lot of disk space.

    Which brings us back to the system that is already in place for the LiL's...
    If I want to go to the SD version of local channel 9, I mash 9, then enter (which takes me to the HD version of channel 9), then press the channel up button, and I am there, not that bad I guess.

    I do kind of like the "-0" idea, and it would certainly work to differentiate between the SD/HD versions. However, I am afraid that it would be thought that having to use the "-0" would further confuse those for which the duplicate channel numbering scheme was conceived in the first place. Oh well.

    I don't understand how 9999 possible channel numbers aren't enough to use discreet channel numbers for everything, but if using duplicate channel numbers is, in fact, our future, the software needs to get consistent about how it displays the duplicate channels (on which progress has been made), and more complete in how it displays channel description information.
  15. Aug 15, 2007 #15 of 112

    Eich Legend

    Jan 8, 2007
    I'm not sure I'd like this. As more and more channels go HD, this could get difficult. For example, I've already memorized where some of my favorite channels are: 212 NFL Network, 280 TLC, 360 FOX News, 229 HDTV etc....

    Now, when certain channels go HD, if they are all in the same group, I'll have no idea where they are without bringing up the guide and searching around. If TLC goes HD, it would be nice to change the channel to 280-1 or 280-0.
  16. Aug 15, 2007 #16 of 112

    markrubi Icon

    Oct 12, 2006
    I second this idea.
  17. Aug 15, 2007 #17 of 112

    newlions Mentor

    Sep 10, 2004
    So when you are in the Guide selecting shows to record, does this channel mirroring force you to record your locals in high def? I understand for live viewing, you can switch, but what about for recordings?
  18. Aug 15, 2007 #18 of 112

    machavez00 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 2, 2006
    I like the setup for LIL HD/SD. When you select a local channel where you have HD LILs you get the HD channel i.e. in Phoenix when I enter 3 for KTVK I get the HD channel. If I want the SD channel I press channel up. If you want the SD version first you go to the guide an select it.

    There is the HD filter in the Guide screen for those who want to see all things HD.
  19. Aug 15, 2007 #19 of 112

    markrubi Icon

    Oct 12, 2006

    But then we have to press the guide button twice.
  20. Aug 15, 2007 #20 of 112

    MikeW Hall Of Fame

    May 16, 2002
    Press dash key, then channel number to go to the SD feed. Those with an HD feed will rarely want to see the SD version of a channel.

    202 = CNN - HD
    -202 = CNN - SD

    They reason we have to do 13 then dash then 2 to go to 13-2 is because of subchannels. I doubt that any of the HD networks will have subchannels.
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