BREAKING NEWS! Price increases coming for Dish Network!

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  1. Jan 6, 2005 #341 of 388
    Jacob S

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    I bet half to two-thirds of this price increase is pure profit for Dish Network. They did say that the new legislation dealing with the one-dish rule caused this increase as well so everyone has to pay to get those customers from two dishes (61.5) to the SuperDish or Dish500.
     
  2. Jan 6, 2005 #342 of 388
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    Now, all of those people who went to DirecTV because they were mad about the price increase will get a nice little surprise, as DirecTV has confirmed its own impending rate increases.
     
  3. Jan 7, 2005 #343 of 388
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    I figured they would increase the price especially with their new expansion plans for HD locals. However, they'll still cost less than Dish.

    It's going to be a big increase for some customers who were on a price protection one year deal at $39.99. Instead of raising to $42.99 it will go up even more.
     
  4. Jan 7, 2005 #344 of 388
    chaddux

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    If you factor in ClubDISH which, if a subscriber is able to take advantage of, greatly skews the price comparison. I acquired my seventh referral this evening, reducing my bill to a pathetic $21/month. Obviously, most probably don't refer anyone but DISH can be an incredible value if you jump all over ClubDISH.
     
  5. Jan 7, 2005 #345 of 388
    James Long

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    Maybe they already did. The last shopping channels were added right before the 2004 price adjustments where AT60 was frozen and AT120 w/locals only raised a penny.

    Two of those increases have been in the past two years. D* subscribers are paying 15.6% more this month for TC w/o locals than they did in January 2003.

    E* customers w/o locals are paying 8.7% more for AT60, 9.4% more for AT120, 9.8% more for AT180, or 6.9% more for AEP than they did in January 2003.

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  6. Jan 7, 2005 #346 of 388
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    Exactly, and to pay for the transition to mpeg4 and the swap out of all hd receivers. Notice no mention of a provider forcing Dish to pass on these price increases. Last year Charlie mentioned Viacom and Disney as the reason . Now it is operating cost to keep up with the FCC mandates and the new mpeg4 conversion.:eek2:
     
  7. Jan 7, 2005 #347 of 388
    Jacob S

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    Also the AT180 having the Outdoor Channel and Outdoor Life Network is another reason why some take this package although one of them is available for $2.00 a month.
     
  8. Jan 7, 2005 #348 of 388
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    Comparing the actual prices for the actual products is a far more accurate comparison than the monetary percentage of their price increases.

    While D may have raised their prices at a higher percentage over the past two years than E, the bottom line is that D's TC+ offers far more than E's AT120 at the same $42.99/month. Quite frankly, there's no comparison between the two packages.

    The advantage E has is with some of the extra cost channels like Superstations and various Internationals, plus the availibility of a cheaper basic package. Otherwise, almost every advantage goes to D.

    The denial is getting a little thick around here ever since E announced the rate increases.
     
  9. Jan 7, 2005 #349 of 388
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    No denial from this 5 year Dish subscriber. I'm the one who brought up that comparison. Will DirecTV raise TC+? Yes, but probably only by $2 not $3. That will mean for $2 more than AT120 you will get like 25 more stations with TC+, no contest. Dish has to add station to AT120 to justify a $3 increase.
     
  10. Jan 7, 2005 #350 of 388
    James Long

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    Any comparison that makes your side win is the most accurate. Welcome to politics! :D

    E* people have accepted the content difference between D* and E*.
    D* people need to accept the price increases at D*, past and future.
    Those trying to decide need to see less emotion and more thought.

    JL
     
  11. Jan 7, 2005 #351 of 388
    Paul Secic

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    I just looked at Comcast's lineup and they just air Spike TV from 9AM to 3PM. Strange being most men arn't home. I didn't see Nick Toons either.
     
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    Do you mean 9 a.m. to 3 a.m.?
     
  13. Jan 7, 2005 #353 of 388
    Stewart Vernon

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    I haven't done a direct apples to apples comparison of Dish vs Cable vs DirectTV in a while. Last time I did, DirectTV and Dish were about the same, and both were cheaper than Cable for comparative stuff I was getting.

    Rates go up all the time. Since having Dish for a few years now I think my rates have gone up twice and gone down once (because of a package deal I had at the time that they gave a discount for). My cable bill never went down, that I know for sure.

    I'd love to get new channels with every price increase... but prices on almost everything else go up eventually, so I've come to expect it. I'd love to never pay more for Dish, but to be completely fair... the company is a company that needs to make money or they'd go under and then we'd all be looking for a new provider... so if I can afford it and I feel it is still worth the money, then I don't complain too much.
     
  14. Jan 8, 2005 #354 of 388
    Paul Secic

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    No,
     
  15. Jan 8, 2005 #355 of 388
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    I really don't get it. If Directv had a good marketing research team, they'd know adding superstations would get them a huge number of subscribers away from Dish.

    I think one plus is that Directv is getting their own DVR unit. If they get away from Tivo, they might gain more customers that way too.
     
  16. Jan 9, 2005 #356 of 388
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    Why would DirecTV using their own DVR unit be an improvement over using Tivo?

    All the dish network DVR's suck. I have a 522 and it's awfull compared to a Tivo. It's to bad DTV is so unscrupulous or I'd switch.
     
  17. Jan 9, 2005 #357 of 388
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    Some don't like the Tivo so that's why they don't switch to Directv. By Directv having two different DVR options it might help them gain subscribers.

    Even tough Tivo has name based recording, I like my 721 receiver just as well. The guide and menus are a lot faster on the 721 than on the Tivo. Plus my dad hates having to connect the Tivo to a phone line a few times a year, that call reminder is so annoying.
     
  18. Jan 9, 2005 #358 of 388
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    I also love how quick the 721 is and I dont have the reboot issues I had with it when that receiver first came out. Its one of the best units Dish Network has ever come out with. i also really like the user interface.
     
  19. Jan 9, 2005 #359 of 388
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    My thoughts exactly! How in the world can you come off of a huge campaign slamming your competitors for rising rates and then announce rate hikes yourself?

    I'd like to see the cable companies (or Rupert) strike back with some sort of retaliatory ads. Sure Rupert is raising rates too, but his paks are still cheaper.
    Dish used to be the price leader, but Charlie is losing credability on his "we watch the bottom line" speeches with hike after hike!
     
  20. Link

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    Dish is only a price leader on two things. The Top 60 package for $31.99 with locals is still not a bad value with all the good basics like Nick, Disney, Sci-Fi, TV Land, USA, TBS, TNT, CMT, VH1, MTV, ESPN, ESPN 2, etc. They should add a few extras though like Fox News. You can't normally get a cable package for that price with those channels plus local stations.
    The other thing Dish has that is not bad is the HBO/Cinemax combo pack for $17. Directv's cost for both services is $23 and only includes 3 lousy Cinemax channels.

    But the Top 120, Top 180, and So-Called Everything Pack are all overpriced now with nothing new to any of the packages.
     
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