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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by veryoldschool, Jul 9, 2009.
Why can't they fix this? Do they even know what causes it?
Yes, DirecTV knows what causes it. In a nutshell it's caused by errors in the station's AC3 digital audio bit stream. Some stations seem to think that DirecTV's equipment should be able to handle (ignore) these errors, since they rarely cause problems for off-air reception. But DirecTV is trying to work with those stations to fix the problem at the root source. So the finger-pointing continues.
Sorry to cross post, just wanted to document here has well...
BRRRIIIPPPs got so bad on KDVR FOX 31 in Denver that they were happening every 5-10 seconds during the latter part of the World Series game 5 last night. Typically a short BRRRIIIPPP followed by a complete audio dropout as my Onkyo lost DD lock. Occasionally it was bad enough that there would be a complete video dropout as well.
OTA straight to my HDTV was not affected.
Just to note that the finger-pointing continues and not everyone agrees that the stations are at fault, here's the response I got from an engineer at the local Fox station:
Yeah, sure. And the check is in the mail, I never had sex with that woman, and there's nobody here in the henhouse but us chickens.
I've seen "the problem" on both ends, with my locals.
I do "wonder" a bit why this engineer doesn't have an open communication channel with the DirecTV Broadcast Center.
"Since when" does anybody but DirecTV & Dishnetwork transcode to MPEG-4?
I think Time Warner may have started to use MPEG-4 but only for Video on Demand..
EDIT: And I don't think Insight uses MPEG-4 at all....
Which kind of puts in doubt what the "Fox engineer" was saying/thinking.
Exactly. If this was some general "MPEG4 problem", then all Fox channels would have this problem. Since it's only several it seems pretty clear to me that the problem is unique to their equipment. I believe DirecTV's information that the problem lies with those station's digital audio signal .... errors that don't affect their MPEG2 off-air broadcasts are clearly causing problems with DirecTV (and other) MPEG4 encoders.
So the finger pointing will continue until either those broadcasters fix their AC3 audio errors, or DirecTV can modify its MPEG4 encoders to minimize the effect of those errors.
As I posted, I've seen "the problem" be on either/both ends, "but" the key is for both ends to work together to resolve it. Without this, then it's simply finger pointing and nothing gets done.
...and my FOX affiliate continues to be nearly unwatchable at times.
When my NBC is this way, the emails go flying. Next are the calls/emails to DirecTV.
This issue popped up on our local Fox station (KCPQ) and several of us pointed it out to their station engineering manager. The problem was resolved within a week. Clearly local stations CAN fix this problem if they want to.
My local affiliate is just playing dumb. Or maybe they're not playing...
You can try the DirecTV calls/emails to get it logged/pushed over to the network broadcast center, and try it get it addresses from that end.
My FOX affiliate says there nothing wrong on his end. He advised me to get TWC or FIOS, as they definitely do NOT have this issue. Which I just might....
Our Fox affiliate couldn't even keep the NFL Sunday games (OTA, no D* involved) in HD during the games.
Worse yet, we lost HD for over an hour of the World Series last night. After observing Fox OTA for several months, I wouldn't take their word on anything. They may be right, but their track record here stinks.
Did the brrrrriiiiip bring the W.S. Victory to The New York Yankees :lol: Sorry I couldn't resist Anyway Congrats to The Yankees and Fox needs to get its' act together. That is the only channel I have ever heard that noise on so I'm putting the blame on Fox.
Each local market is different. My CBS station now has a video or audio glitch once a second. There is a line of data which is bad. Every second it's a different line. Happens on OTA and D*. But that is a known issue.
The FOX affiliate wants to help, but since everything is working they don't know what's wrong.
Why does HD still feel like it's in the early adopter stage?
Looks like it isn't resolved yet. The Seahawks game yesterday was absolutely unwatchable on the D* feed of KCPQ 13 Fox due to the audio brrrps, in the 2nd half they were once every minute or two. (Also had picture blackouts as I've been having for the last 2 - 3 games, but not as bad as the audio issues).
I ended up switching to the FOX OTA SD feed from their Seattle tower (DTV ch 22-2) since I can't pick up the OTA feed from the Bremerton tower. No audio problems whatsover with OTA.
I was watching this on my H20-100 receiver (non-DVR).
My wife and I have also noticed this in the past when watching Fringe on FOX. We finally give up and just watch it online on the FOX website the next day.