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BrrrrRIP! HD-Mpeg4 Encoder Reset/Failures On Massive Increase

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by 1948GG, Oct 3, 2008.

  1. Oct 3, 2008 #1 of 91

    1948GG Icon

    Aug 4, 2007
    Ever since the initial HD-Mpeg4 encoders were brought on line (even way back 2+ years ago with the HD-LIL's), this 'BrrrrRIP' encoder reset has existed, sometimes very infrequent, sometimes increasing to ridiculous levels, where both the audio 'effect' and the video 'blanks out' for several seconds.

    As the encoders s/w has been changed/upgraded (I'll assume it's the Harmonic MPeg4 encoders), it comes and goes. Some channels I watch religiously (interesting word there!), like NESN and YES, have had very little if any of this.

    As the playoffs are well underway, it seems to be affecting poor TBS-HD just about every few minutes. But I've also noticed that channels such has HDNet-Movies (channel 552, the Mpeg4 one not the Mpeg2 one on 78), seem to be getting several failures an hour as well.

    Obviously (to me), they've 'upgraded' the s/w for the encoders sometime in the last week or so, resulting in VERY POOR performance throughout.

    Actually, I have three HD receiver systems in my living room, a HR20-700, HR20-100 (it belongs, actually, in my RV but it's 'mothballed' for the winter), and an H20-100. I usually watch the H20-100, leaving the HR's to record away.

    So, after I noticed a couple days ago on the increase in the resetting (and watching the playoffs on TBS-HD), I'm able to switch back to the other machines to verify the errors, right after they happen.

    The three systems are actually one two different 'systems', as well, the HR20-700 is 'direct connected' to a Slimline dish, while the other two are through a SWM8 system off my 'original' Sidecar dish. So, completely different signal chains at my receive 'site'.

    I'd think about calling DirecTV up, but only a couple of times (talking with level 2 or 3 folks), would they probably understand what's going on.

    But it is VERY disconcerting, and perhaps a bit of an insight as to what's going on with all the roll-outs (or 'non-rollouts') of channels recently.

    In short, it appears that quality assurance has gone down the tubes.
  2. Oct 3, 2008 #2 of 91

    wilbur_the_goose Hall Of Fame

    Aug 16, 2006
    FWIW, I have had no troubles here in SE Pennsylvania.
  3. Oct 3, 2008 #3 of 91

    man_rob Hall Of Fame

    Feb 21, 2007
    Everything is fine here in MD.
  4. Oct 3, 2008 #4 of 91

    davemayo Hall Of Fame

    Nov 17, 2005
    Been watching a lot of TBS baseball the past couple of days. Haven't noticed anything.
  5. Oct 3, 2008 #5 of 91
    David MacLeod

    David MacLeod New Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    never seen that on 2 hr20-10 and an hr21-100 and I watch tbs often.
  6. Oct 3, 2008 #6 of 91

    bnglbill Icon

    Nov 29, 2006
    I remember the days when this was very bad and I can remember being very frustrated, but those days are gone for me now. I only here that once in a blue moon now...

    I seem to recall that is was very bad on live shows, about a year and a half ago American Idol was almost unwatchable because of it but the last couple of seasons have been spot on.
  7. Oct 3, 2008 #7 of 91

    Grentz New Member

    Jan 10, 2007
    Have not had any issues personally with this.
  8. Oct 3, 2008 #8 of 91

    Steve Well-Known Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    Saw and heard one BrrrrRIP! last night, during playback of Tuesday night's L&O:SVU, It was during the scene in the captain's office, right after Stabler said "thanks captain" as he was leaving.

    Otherwise, can't recall hearing any other BrrrrRIP!'s for months. /steve
  9. Oct 3, 2008 #9 of 91

    LarryFlowers New Member

    Sep 22, 2006
    2 HR units, never heard it, never experienced it.
  10. Matman

    Matman Legend

    Mar 24, 2008
    I've noticed it a few times, on Sci Fi and a couple other channels, always seemed to be when they were switching from one program to another, IE from one commercial to another, or from the program to a commercial etc......
  11. bakers12

    bakers12 ΔS > 0

    May 29, 2007
    Chicago -...
    It hadn't been a problem for a while, but watching the Cubs on TBS the last couple of nights, we've noticed a lot of BrrrrRIP in the sound when switching from the ball game to commercials. It's on both our HD DVRs, a HR20-700 and a HR21-700.

    I haven't checked on the D12-300, but it wouldn't matter if this is an MPEG4 issue.
  12. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

    Sep 28, 2006
    I see this effect only very rarely on most MPEG4 national HD programming.

    However, I see it (well, HEAR it mostly) pretty regularly (as in, almost every night, several times per episode) on the CBS MPEG4 HD local here in the Nashville area (WTVF Channel 5). Interestingly, it only occurs when showing CBS network programming - usually prime-time only, and rarely during football for instance. It NEVER occurs during locally-produce HD news programming. I have written to the station engineer who took the time to respond to me. He indicated he was unaware of the problem, as they do not monitor the Directv signal, they just provide it. He said he would work with them to try to resolve the problem, and things seemed to improve somewhat for a couple weeks. However, last week's episode of CSI:NY was terrible again and I am considering writing the station a second time.
  13. David MacLeod

    David MacLeod New Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    like LameLefty I have noticed it on cbs local hd feeds also, both on OTA and on tv tuner itself. it is very seldom with me though, and is never when watching using the dvr.
    wonder if its an audio setup issue, or if using ota tuner a signal amplification issue.
  14. jpretguy

    jpretguy New Member

    Dec 29, 2007
    No problem here in Detroit. Watched a movie on 552 last night and everything was ok...:)
  15. d max82

    d max82 Godfather

    May 23, 2007
    I never watch TBS except for the playoffs , and have not seen this problem on any channel except on TBS here lately. I saw it probably 10-15 times during the Twins White Sox Tiebreaker
  16. Hootermancs

    Hootermancs Cool Member

    Dec 18, 2006
    Yep, I had it quite frequently last night during the Cubs game. I don't think it ever happened during the game, was basically just at the end of some commercials I believe.

    Unless DTV fixing this issue will also somehow make the Cubs start playing better it doesn't really bother me. Just so it stays during commercials that is.
  17. RACJ2

    RACJ2 Hall Of Fame

    Aug 2, 2008
    I have heard it several times recently on the Dallas locals during prime time.
  18. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Dec 9, 2006
    I know just what this sounds like.:lol:
    While it used to just be every so often, for the past two weeks, it's become much more annoying during prime-time and only on my local 1080i [CBS & NBC].
  19. Wrangler3

    Wrangler3 Mentor

    Jun 27, 2007
    CNNHD had a few of those audio 'burps' during the VP debate on my receiver (HR21-100). I powered down the receiver last night and it was locked up to where I couldn't power it on so I had to pull the plug. It came up after that.
  20. rudeney

    rudeney Hall Of Fame

    May 28, 2007
    As others have said, this was a major annoyance two years ago when the HR20 first came out, but I don’t experience it much anymore. It’s normal to watch an entire night of TV without one incident. I have noticed that our local NBC channel, which broadcasts the local news in HD, has some issue. Every night when they switch to the weather, there will be at least one BrrrRIP that occurs about 10-20 seconds into that segment. My guess is this is a problem with their equipment and not D*.

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