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Building new home- considering D*

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by appstate, Jun 25, 2013.

  1. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

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    You actually do not need to be licensed and insured to run your own cables to pass inspection in all states, if you already own the building. I doubt he does yet though in this case.
     
  2. peds48

    peds48 Genius.

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    thus my comment
     
  3. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

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    I believe in over doing it if you are doing it yourself. I ran five rg6 lines, two cat 6 lines, and a phone line to main tv spots in a home i was doing for a realitve. When you look at the cost to do that with what wire is, its super cheap to do when the walls are open. (I figured the extra runs over 2 as 2 is an absolute min for anything, cost about $350 on a 400k place to build, so nothing really) Hes set for anything other than a full move to fiber, which i don't see coming soon. But just in case, from the entrance point of the house to the main distribution center, there is an empty and waiting conduit if that ever happens. ;)

    Don't forget, there are other things that people might want to run, and with moca, coax is like Ethernet if needed to if suddenly for some reason 2 cat6 runs by themselves isn't enough. I can always come up with a reason, even if it is extreme.
     
  4. slice1900

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    But by 2020 he'll wish he had 5 cat6 lines rather than 5 coax. No new application will ever use that RG6, it is legacy wiring. Yeah, you can use wires for things they weren't designed for, using technologies like MoCA or powerline ethernet, X10, etc. but doing so adds cost and trades flexibility and performance over doing it right.

    I can't imagine what he'll ever use 5 RG6 lines to a TV location for, unless you think he's going to be shipping component video around (accepting possible interference and giving up ever doing 4K) Or maybe he might send unbalanced analog audio from an iPod dock along with digital audio from a receiver located there for a whole house audio system? If you gave him more cat6 and less RG6, he'd be more effectively future proofed not having to live within the limitations of coax.
     
  5. Drucifer

    Drucifer Well-Known Member

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    Always look at SmartHome for ideas of present & future electronics in the home.
     
  6. unixguru

    unixguru Godfather

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    Conduit everywhere!

    Whatever you put in, no matter the quantity, will surely be obsolete before the house is.
     
  7. slice1900

    slice1900 Well-Known Member

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    Conduit is a great idea, but I've had several friends who ran conduit and later found it impossible to pull anything through - maybe they had bends too tight or something like that.

    Personally, I wouldn't be too concerned about something becoming obsolete before the house is. I'd just want it to not become obsolete as long as I owned the house. The new owner is going to find things aren't to his liking no matter what you do - he'll want to put TVs on different walls, hang them from ceiling mounts, put them behind bathroom mirrors or who knows what else that you don't want to do, so even with conduit he's not going to get exactly what he wants without fishing/opening walls.
     
  8. Drucifer

    Drucifer Well-Known Member

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    Bends? There should be no bends. If you need to turn, you use a junction box that is accessible.
     
  9. peds48

    peds48 Genius.

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    you can actually have up to two "bends" in a conduit and the cable will pull fine. have three or more game over!!!
     
  10. unixguru

    unixguru Godfather

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    Ok, I shouldn't have said obsolete house.

    I didn't expect to be in the same house 20+ years after building it but here I am and will be a lot longer it seems. In those 20 years I've had more cables pulled several times and fought many battles. Some battles I just didn't start because I knew the hassle.

    If I ever build again (likely requiring more $ than I have), I would use suspended ceilings. You can get very nice looking suspended ceilings - even made out of wood (including coffered). With that it becomes trivial to do anything with wiring.
     

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