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Bush seeks Union support

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  1. Sep 2, 2002 #1 of 13
    John Corn

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    Bush seeks Union support..........:confused:

    From the BBC, the NY Times has a similiar article. Given that many conservatives have considered Unions to be next to communism (or Iraq) in terms of evil:D this is quite a change (the part about unions not the focus on the economy).

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    US President George W Bush is expected to focus on the country's economy in a Labor Day speech to union members, rather than discussing his plans for Iraq.
    Mr Bush, who returned to Washington on Sunday after a month at his Texas ranch, will address members of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America at a picnic in Pittsburgh.

    A White House official told Reuters news agency: "The focus will be on strengthening our economy and economic security."

    Bush has been busy attending Republican fundraisers


    Monday's speech is seen as part of the Republican Party's plans to prepare for November's congressional elections, with the administration courting previously Democratic union supporters.

    The US economy has continued to struggle and Mr Bush is expected to concentrate on "bright areas" such as low inflation and interest rates, the official said.

    While military plans for Iraq are not expected to be a major part of the speech, the president will discuss his wide-ranging plans to protect Americans against terrorism on the home front.

    He is also expected to raise his comprehensive energy plan and other items from his domestic agenda that were put on hold after the 11 September attacks.

    Speculation around the world has mounted that Mr Bush plans to order an attack on Iraq, which the US accuses of trying to develop chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

    Union support

    But for the holiday speech, political analysts expect Iraq and the US-led war on terrorism to be overshadowed by home-grown issues such as the economy, tax cuts, health care and government spending ahead of the November elections.

    Unions have been traditional supporters of the Democratic Party, but the carpenters' union backs Mr Bush's controversial proposal to drill for oil and gas in a protected wilderness area in Alaska - a move opposed by many Democrats.

    Officials from the union were also invited to an administration forum on the economy in Texas last month.

    The 5 November elections will see the two parties in a fierce battle over the Democrats' one-seat majority in the Senate, and the Republicans' narrow margin in the House of Representatives.
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    Bush is just wasting his time trying to court the unions. Unions almost always vote Democratic. I doubt anything George would say will shake loose much support for him.
    If Bush does not simply supprot the American Chamber of Commerce on all issues he could get union voters, particularly with the surge in patriotism. But he has taken a lot of actions hostile to unions so far, such as using labor laws to force airline workers not to strike and threaten long shoremen with the same.
     
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    gcutler

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    If the unions back Bush, it would be pretty stupid as those he has supported long term have been very Anti-Union. But then again the Leadership of the Unions have given back sooo much and often act like they are "Members of the the board" that it wouldn't be shocking if some unions gave support to bush. It would be like bush trying to court the "National Organization for Women" (a Pro-Choice group) while having a long term relationship with the Pro-Life groups. Can't play both sides of the fence when you have a history of being staunchly on one side.
     
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    John Corn

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    Not only that but Cheney when he was in charge of Haliburton was a known union head-hunter. He went way out of his way to bust unions. Bush also is backed very strongly by the ABC, which is essentially a "union" of rat contractors.

    I would vote for nearly anyone over those two tools.
     
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    And of course Mr. Bush picked a former union buster for his secretary of labor as well.
     
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    And wasn't it a big issue that he wanted the new Department that would fight terrorism to be free of any Union influence? Not like we have to dig very hard (or deep) to find his Anti-Union stance.
     
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    Bush is courting more "skilled labor" union members who tend to be more conservative politically. Some of these union memberships will do quite well with, for example, Bush's Alaska oil initiative.
     
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    About 30 years ago most unions actually leaned heavily Republican. I am not sure where the exact flip occurred or what was the cause of the change. Then again, President Nixon was a proponent of a "Guaranteed Annual Income" program, which I am sure would have had strong union support, although not mine.
     
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    Geronimo

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    The Teamsters and a few others endorsed Nixon but I think it inaccurate to say most unions leaned Republican. The AFL CIo ad UAW never endorsed him. But yes there wre unions outside the mainstream that did.
     
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    gcutler

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    Although it seems that SOME unions could have their endorsement bought if they had disreputable leaders (Cough, Jimmy Hoffa, Cough, Cough)
     
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    In 72 some unions broke with the Democratic party because of MCGovern, But in general labor is pretty solid behind the Democrats----certainly at the natioanl level.


    Reagan alos courted rank and file unionists-----with some success but had little success with the AFLCIO leadership.
     
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    With the Union busting that Reagan did, I doubt that there were many union supporters the 2nd time around?
     
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    Rank and file yes. They were the core of the "Reagan Democrats". But again in '84 Mondale was often criticized as a puppet of the unions----even in the primaries.
     
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    Mondale should have been criticized for not having a chance in He*l of winning :D
     
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