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C61K and Samsung 65" 4K tvs. Problem?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Duke Sweden, Dec 5, 2017 at 7:26 AM.

  1. Duke Sweden

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    Exactly!!! ;-)
     
  2. jimmie57

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    I always adjusted on my new TVs for about a month.
    When I got my 55" KU7000 I bought one of these and it worked very well. Adjusted it in one sitting and have not moved any adjustments since.
    https://www.amazon.com/Spears-Munsi...1&keywords=spears+and+munsil+calibration+disc
     
  3. Wolfmanjohn

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    I was thinking more of removing the HDMI cable between the OCB and Onkyo.
     
  4. Wolfmanjohn

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    There is very little written about the MU series in general and 65" in particular over there at AVSforum. Curious, that. I think these tvs may well be one of the world's best kept secrets; they're that good.

    I set the picture mode to movie and the backlight to 10 (sometimes 11 on a sunny day) and made sure the eco solutions were turned off...and that's it! I've felt no compulsion to make any further adjustments and am very happy with the picture.
     
  5. Duke Sweden

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    Well, I had tried calibration disks in the past and always ended up retweaking. Like you I will take a month or so to get the picture just right, then maybe 6 months down the road do some further tweaking. I never really stop. I just go longer between tweaks. There's no way you can just make one tweak and leave it.
     
  6. Duke Sweden

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    If I do that I can't turn on the receiver with the smart remote. With both the HDMI4 connection (or HDMI 2 or 3, doesn't really matter) and optical audio I can turn it on, plus control volume and muting while watching youtube or something on the USB inputs. I turned off HDMI-CEC yesterday and as of right now the C61K has not turned off. Plus, as I said, I've programmed my Harmony 650 so that I can access the smart hub so if I want to turn on and control the receiver while watching live tv I can, now, using the Harmony.
     
  7. Duke Sweden

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    Agreed, although I prefer Natural with tweaks. Again, I had both the MU9000 65" and the Sony XBR65x900E at the same time. I was going to return the sammy just because of those minor remote problems I'd been having, but ended up returning the much praised 900E because of its inferior picture quality.
     
  8. Rich

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    I tried several adjustments, based on what I read here and on AVS, on my JS8500 and got nowhere. I don't know what folks think of as good PQ. I put it back on factory default settings and have almost as good a picture as on my 8000. I have tried calibration discs but quickly gave up on them when I hit a point in the calibration where I was told it would take some time to get used to the calibrated picture. I considered hiring a calibrator but that would just seem to produce a picture based on what the calibrator thought was a "good" picture. This is subjective, I've found I'm better off paying for a set that works correctly out of the box.

    Rich
     
  9. Duke Sweden

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    To me, what usually needs to be adjusted is the contrast. It's always a bit too harsh, with crushed blacks and blown out whites. Then I adjust color saturation and finally skin tone. Over the course of a month I'll tweak, as I said before. I agree about calibrators. I had one guy who came to my home one time to calibrate my audio system. I have Klipsch reference series speakers, and when he was done, you couldn't hear anything out of the sub woofer! What was the point of that? Like your guy, I was told that I had to get used to it.

    So I stay away from "pros" and do it myself to my taste.

    As far as what some folks think of as good PQ, Whatever it is, it's definitely better than the out of box picture I got with the Sony. That was truly horrendous. If you're familiar with the "cartoon look" preset, where a live image is made to look like a one dimensional cartoon, that's what I was getting! There was no way I could have left it at that had I decided to keep it. Anyway, I've really trampled the purpose of this forum with this thread, but feel free to continue if you'd like.
     
  10. Duke Sweden

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    UPDATE: After turning off HDMI-CEC, I've had the tv on this morning without changing channels or volume, just letting it run, and the C61K is still on 5 hours later so it looks like that fixed the problem. Now I have to decide whether to turn this one in when the new one comes and risk THAT one being defective. First world problems...
     
  11. Rich

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    I think what you mean is correctly called "the soap opera effect". I had that on the Sony 850 (don't remember if it was a "D" or a "C" model) and it was awful. But I also had it on the two Samsung 6 Series 4K sets that I bought and quickly brought back. I'm really surprised you had the problems with the 900, I thought Sony...I dunno what I thought. I've had Sonys for so long and never had an issue with them. I was appalled when I got the Sony 850 and lit it off, I did not expect problems.

    Rich
     
  12. Duke Sweden

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    No, Rich, not the soap opera effect. I know what that looks like. I'll find an example of what I mean and upload it here shortly.

    EDIT: I kid you not, it was almost as bad as this
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    Great ... that points me in a good direction. Any other settings you adjust from the default besides picture?

    It’s great to see Netflix has a bunch of 4k content and movies until Directv gets the act together.
     
  14. compnurd

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    Little written because it is overpriced. For the same price you can get a LG 65B7 OLED set which also supports Dolby vision
     
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    I paid $1,699 for the MU9000 65". Is that overpriced? The LG 65" you mentioned is $2,600.00
     
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    The LG has been as low as 1799 over the last few weeks
     
  17. Duke Sweden

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    The price I quoted is from Amazon as of this morning. Was $1799 their "Black Friday" price?
     
  18. jimmie57

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    I have a relative in Georgia that bought a 9000 model Samsung for $2,499 and got a free Blu Ray player with it last year.
    He first came home with a 75" top of the line Sony that was $3,500. He hated the pic so bad that he returned it to the store the same day. He is very pleased with the Samsung.
     
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  19. Duke Sweden

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    Ah yes. Sweet vindication ;-)

    btw, the C61K just shut down again. In a way I'm relieved, as I was conflicted on whether to return the replacement when it gets here. Now I'm definitely switching out.
     
  20. compnurd

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    I would never use Amazon for TV pricing... But 1799 was the price Fry's had it for for a week around black friday It has been averaging 2199 for the last month

    But again. it isnt a bad TV... it is just for there pricing this year alot of better TV's can be had for less money or a few bucks more...
     
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