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Cable companies cap data use for revenue!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by lgb0250, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. maartena

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    The DVR's store the incoming feeds in a different format. They don't compress it that well for both quality reasons and the fact that the CPU of the DirecTV DVR would have problems (especially the older ones) compressing two video's at the same time. It would overheat. So it is stored in such a way the DVR has to do as little work as possible yet allowing as much video as possible to be stored. A balance.

    Internet streams are much more compressed, and require a bit more CPU power when playing/decompressing.

    I might be a bit off on the 1 Gb/1Hour thing, but it does come close to that. If you have the option, I guess you could monitor it: Don't use the internet for an hour or so and count the bytes coming in when downloading a 1 hour show.
  2. RACJ2

    RACJ2 Hall Of Fame

    Aug 2, 2008
    TWC moved away from caps and is now offering an essentials package in select Texas cities. If you opt in, you get a $5 discount for staying under 5 GB/mo. Here is a link to an article on that. Also, my account on line started showing the usage chart below recently.
  3. 1948GG

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    Aug 4, 2007
    Everytime I see one of these types of threads, I have to remind folks that ISP (cable, telco, whatever) are retailers, and no discussion of this can really proceed without a full knowledge of what the wholesale price of the item is on the open market.

    1GByte of data from any of the teir1 wholesalers (level3, AT&T, you name it) is less than 1cent. 1cent.

    The retailers are selling that thing they get for 1cent for at least 20times that. When their 'customers' exceed that artificial 'barrier', they charge 50-100+ times as much.

    Sounds like a pretty good racket if you can get into it, and stay out of prison.
  4. Diana C

    Diana C Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Mar 30, 2007
    New Jersey
    What you describe is very true for cities and their suburbs. I live about 30 outside NYC and get 75/35 service for about $45/mo via FiOS (bundled with digital phone service). But large portions of America can not get anything close to that. I have a friend that owns a business in central Connecticut and all he can get at a reasonable price (under $150/mo) is AT&T DSL (500kbps because of distance from the CO). Once you get into rural areas, they still have nothing but dial-up available.

    Oh, and the Netherlands (along most of Europe) has cheaper service because the companies' profit margins are regulated. They dropped their caps because they were required to, not because they wanted to (or, in many cases, the ISP is a government agency). In this country we have the quaint belief that competition will always lead to the best service at the lowest price. ISPs here have invested where they can make the most profit...this is why Verizon has stopped hanging fiber for residential service...they have already covered all the areas where they believe they can make a large profit.
  5. Blurayfan

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    Nov 16, 2005
    In terms of bandwidth usage per hour for HD the ones I have seen is for PC download Amazon shows a TV episode at 45 minutes in length at a bit rate of 6000 kbps 720p video, 5.1 audio 384 kbps. File size is listed at 2.1GB. Streaming the same show maxes out 2500 kbps video and audio at stereo 192 kbps.

    Apple iTunes download for the same episode in 1080p is about 1.79 GB. iTunes shows specs as 5000 kbps for video, 384 kbps 5.1 Dolby Digital and a stereo track at 160 kbps.
  6. Beerstalker

    Beerstalker Hall Of Fame

    Feb 9, 2009
    Peoria, IL
    Sure Amazon, iTunes, Netflix, etc. can use different compression and frame rates, etc., but I thought we were talking about DirecTV's On-Demand content and the affect of these data caps on it's usage. DirecTVs On-Demand has to stick to pretty much the same type of compression as what they are using over the satellites, or else I don't think the DVRs would be able to handle it. So like I said with DirecTV's On-Demand content you are looking at 4-5GB/hr I believe, which will eat up those data caps pretty quick.

    If we aren't talking about DirecTV's on-Demand, but instead all these other providers then isn't this thread in the wrong place?
  7. AMike

    AMike Godfather

    Nov 21, 2005
    When Comcast announced their data caps a few years back, we were considered in the 1% class of heavy users due to all of the content we streamed from Netflix and VOD from D*. I switched from a residential account to a business account to avoid any data caps (plus, I do work from home so I had a legitimate reason for justifying the switch). The price was comparable to my residential account. Unfortunately for me, my business account contract expires next June and I'm sure I will get hit with a significant increase.

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