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Cabling

Discussion in 'Hopper System Support Forum' started by tcatdbs, Apr 4, 2012.

  1. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    While you exercising verbal discussion, I'll tell you - your home 'legally swept 3 GHz cable' could be not in specs,if a) a rat chewed it yesterday, b) there is a kink with short radius, c)there is stapled point(s), d)there is sharp turn somewhere; e)there is overheated/melted piece of that, f) you have long 200"+ run, etc
    That's means you have no "an absolute guarantee that it" up to real specs.

    Same time I would bet for the 1000' roll of any current spool of RG6 - it will pass 3 GHz sweep for 100'-200'.

    Why is need to nit picking here, I don't understand.
     
  2. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    The point is, there is a spec. If you violate the spec that is the first place that any responsible person would look to solve the problem. If it is older RG-6 that was not tested to 3000 GHz it would be replaced by known good cable ... which would also help with other issues the cable might exhibit.

    Even with cable that is tested appropriately DISH only supports 200ft from LNB to Hopper and 200ft from Hopper to the furthest Joey. Will it work at 200ft and die at 201ft? Probably not. But that is the spec.

    I'm not saying that if I had untested cable in my home that worked with an existing satellite system that I wouldn't try to use it ... but it would be my first target to fix if there were any problems. If I came across the same cable at work I'd replace it as at work I have no choice but to follow the standards.

    (Note: I do not work for DISH nor do I install satellite systems for a living. But my work does involve following standards. Sometimes standards add hundreds or thousands of dollars to the price of doing a job. But I follow standards. The people paying for the job and paying me to do the job expect nothing less.)
     
  3. Wire Nut

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    ^^^
    My point exactly James. Technicians who think they know more than the people who pay them, while often correct, don't tend to be technicians for long.
     
  4. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    There's also the old saying "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."

    It is much easier now to replace cable, than to wait until you have an irate customer later and it probably only takes a few extra minutes on the initial install to make a quick determination on whether or not you need to run new cable.

    I wouldn't trust an installer that didn't at least check.
     
  5. tcatdbs

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    I plan on running my own cable from my wiring junction to the attic with plenty left in the attic for the installer to run wherever the dish is mounted. All room feeds are already there. How do you know if it's 3000mhz? I plan on getting this at Home Depot.
     
  6. Wire Nut

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    Would it work? Probably. It is not approved by Dish Network and would not pass an electrical inspection. Looking under the specifications tab on that cable it says, "Rated for in-wall : No". Look in your phone book for electrical supply warehouses, look for Belden RG6 as this is what most builders use and is approved.
     
  7. tcatdbs

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    Thanks, I think I'll run a pull cord and let the installer run his own cable.
     
  8. Wire Nut

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    Even better. Good luck with the install!
     

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