Cancelling Dtv

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by mobouser, Oct 15, 2012.

  1. Nov 19, 2014 #41 of 106

    lokar Icon

    Oct 7, 2006
    I would take that deal in a heartbeat, that's what my bill for phone/unlimited long distance/15MB internet/No tv comes to.
  2. Nov 19, 2014 #42 of 106

    jacksonm30354 Icon

    Mar 29, 2007
    I just cancelled DirecTv at the beginning of the month and went with a Double-Play offer from Comcast/xfinity that included their Digital Preferred, 105Mbps internet, HBO, and stream pix for 2 years @99.99 a month. I use Ooma for phone service ($120 a year) and I opted for a TiVo Roamio pro with 3 mini's and 2 HD-DTAs (for my 2 guest rooms). It's hard to tell what my actual bill will be until I get the 2nd statement as Comcast's website is horrid (It doesn't even indicate what package you have). I had been paying $175 to DirecTv for the Premier package that includes HBO, Showtime, Starz, etc so I did downgrade the tv part a bit, but I rarely watched Showtime or Starz. I was paying $52 a month to comcast for 50Mbps internet. Going from $225 a month to ~$120 (adding taxes and Tivo fees) is great. I don't notice any difference in picture quality, except the SD channels (which I avoid if possible). I do wish they would map the HD channel to the same channel as SD, but I went through and unchecked the SD channels that had an HD equivalent to get around that. I wish too that they would actually use the OTA channel number atleast for channels 2-13. I really like being able to stream shows from my DVR anywhere to my iPad or iPhone. You can even stream live TV - well, sort of as it starts recording and streams the recording. So far I'm very happy.
  3. Nov 20, 2014 #43 of 106

    jimmie57 Hall Of Fame

    Jun 26, 2010
    Did you see the channel that says "Free On Demand" ? I recently visited my mother in Savannah, GA and she has Comcast. She does not have a DVR. I tried out a couple of the movies and they are on almost instantly. Once they are on, they have the features as if she had a DVR, Pause, Fast Forward, etc. It even remembered that I had not finished watching the first one and had the choice of Resume.
    I agree that their channel line up is awful.
    I noticed also that if you tuned to an SD channel and there was an HD equivalent it put a message on the screen to that effect. By pressing the select button it jumped you to the HD station.
  4. Nov 20, 2014 #44 of 106

    AmazinglySmooth New Member

    Oct 25, 2014
    United States
    I looked at TWC and the deal breaker for me was no 30 second skip on the DVR. According to the rep I spoke with, they do not have it--only FF or RW.
  5. Nov 20, 2014 #45 of 106

    dpeters11 Hall Of Fame

    May 30, 2007
    Personally, I'd never use their actual DVRs. I'd only go to TWC or fiber with a Roamio and Cable Card.
  6. Nov 21, 2014 #46 of 106

    mobouser AllStar

    May 23, 2007
    I gave up on TWC DVR 2 years ago. Just kept it in storage since it was part of my triple play deal. I got a Tivo Premier then and now a Roamio whiich has both a slow and fast 30 second skip, you get to choose which style of skip you want to use. The difference between TWC and Tivo DVR is like going from the flintstones to the jetsons and i saved around ten bucks a month on my TWC bill. I was blow away and still am by what I'm paying monthly,just saw my first bill under the new deal which wont expire till november of next year. Again their dvr are plain junk but the service is good. Im in upstate NY and if I lived in the Buffalo area you could forget about satellite service. Whereas my service is in the ground and I never have any problems.
  7. Nov 10, 2015 #47 of 106

    mobouser AllStar

    May 23, 2007
    Recapping, I have not been around this forum but I finally had a price increase withn TWC. Im up to 125 a month thats after three years at the promo rate. That rate includes everything and using my TIVO service. Things are about to change again for me because Verizon is running new fios lines in front of my house. Which makes things interesting... I dont regret leaving DTV for a minute. Nothing personal just the facts.
  8. Nov 10, 2015 #48 of 106

    cypherx Hall Of Fame

    Aug 27, 2010
    PA - Berks...
    While they made some progress on the navigator software (as slow as that progress has been) I can't believe there's no 30 second skip! That is a staple in DVR appliance in my opinion. Sure enough the little bit I played with it at the in laws house off the Hudson Valley NY system, I couldn't figure out how to 30 skip either.

    How is the stability of TiVo lately? Any freezes or spontaneous reboots? Is it good at recording everything you schedule or does that glitch out sometimes? My local cable company is rumored to be testing the TiVo software on the Pace XG1 6-tuner DVR now that the NCTC reached an agreement with TiVo and smaller cable operators to help negotiate pricing, contracts and purchasing. Next fall 2016 if it's available I will have to give it a close look depending on where DirecTV is with pricing and software stability. DirecTV on one hand has been much more flexible with negotiating pricing than my small cable operator. At DirecTV's sheer size there is some wiggle room whereas a 60,000 customer privately owned cable system just cannot survive on heavy discounts and freebies. However there's potential for bundle savings since I already do Internet and phone through them.
  9. Nov 10, 2015 #49 of 106

    HarleyD Hall Of Fame

    Aug 31, 2006
    A connection of 20 MBPS may be lightning fast...or inadequate depending on how it is used. It isn't an absolute and that number does not exist in a vacuum. How many mouths are you feeding with that connection?

    For example, 4K streaming can be accomplished with 15 MBPS. If you have wireless B devices they can only go up to about 11 MBPS. 20 MBPS gives you all you can handle for either of those applications by themselves.

    But if you have kids in the bedroom streaming content, and your spouse in the family room binging 'Scandal' on Hulu you probably wont be able to reliably stream that 4K content any more with a 20 MBPS connection.

    But make no mistake, 20 MBPS is a lot of bandwidth. More than a lot of areas can even get. It's just that as with almost anything the more you acclimate to using it, the more you need.

    In my house we had FiOS 25/25 for just my wife and I for quite a while, and that was pretty much enough until we got our 4K TV and I upped it to 50/50. Then I upgraded again about two days ago to 75/75 and a new Quantum Gateway router (existing router isn't rated for the increased speed) just because we still saw occasional latency issues when my wife and I were competing for bandwidth. But to be fair we have a sick number of connected devices sucking off the same pipe.

    2 - Wired PCs
    1 - Wireless PC
    5 - HD DVRs connected via a wired bridge to the MOCA network
    4 - Blu Ray players plugged into the RJ45 pass-throughs on the HD DVRs
    2 - iPhones
    1 - Tablet (only occasionally turned on)
    2 - Wireless Laptops (one always on, one occasionally on)
    1- Wired PS4
    1 - Wired Smart TV

    And we still were getting by on 25/25 without too many issues until the desire to stream 4K became a kind of tipping point.
  10. Nov 10, 2015 #50 of 106

    mdavej Hall Of Fame

    Jan 30, 2007
    I'm in the unfortunate position of having both DirecTV (for my parents) and cable (for me). I get 80 more HD channels than they do, including HBO/SHO/MAX, better overall picture quality, free client boxes in every room (Tivo Mini), no "Advanced Receiver" fees, no lease fees. So I get way more on cable for far less money, even though I call and beg DirecTV every 6 months to give me some kind of break (which they always do, thank goodness).

    If cable is so great, then why not switch my parents? Like real estate, it comes down to location, location, location. Their local cable company is terrible and expensive. So DirecTV is the lesser of evils.

    I avoided cable for many years because they sucked on every level. DirecTV was far superior. But cable kept getting better, and DirecTV kept piling on the fees until I reached my breaking point. Now that cable has caught up with and surpassed them in many markets and are competitively priced, they deserve serious consideration.

    So good for you mobouser. It's nice to see what else is out there rather than keep our heads in the sand and writing bigger and bigger checks to DirecTV. Thanks for posting.
  11. Nov 12, 2015 #51 of 106

    mobouser AllStar

    May 23, 2007
    I use a Roamio as my primary and a mini networked in for another area. I also have a Premier for OTA. It takes about 10 seconds to skip thru five minutes of commercial adds if your taking your time. The new Bolt is supposed to be almost instantanious for skipping adds. That unit is supposed to be set up for UHD reception its new to the market the only negative for the new stuff is now you dont have lifetime service.
    My units all have lifetime
  12. Nov 12, 2015 #52 of 106

    dpeters11 Hall Of Fame

    May 30, 2007
    One thing I don't like to do is compare number of channels offered in HD. I personally find that to be a useless metric. What's useful is who has more in HD of channels you watch, or better, who has more of the more important channels you watch (to factor out a channel you only watch 1-2 shows on).
  13. Nov 12, 2015 #53 of 106

    photostudent Godfather

    Nov 8, 2007
    With DirecTV since about 1996. I was on the (Time Warmer) internet Monday looking for a possible ATT/Uverse-DTV package. They really do not seem to be integrated yet. Strangely I got a call from TW retention dept the next day offering a triple play deal that would save me about $1200 for the first year! It would also include increasimg my internet speed up to 200 mbs. I have a ten year old HR21 that is slow as molasses. I'm not seeing a reason not to try it.
  14. Nov 12, 2015 #54 of 106

    RAD Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2002
    Remember you can always suspend your DIRECTV account if you want to give TWC a test drive (as long as TWC doesn't come with a commitment). Then if you like TWC call and cancel DIRECTV if that's how you decide to go.
  15. Nov 12, 2015 #55 of 106

    mdavej Hall Of Fame

    Jan 30, 2007
    True, but when the number is so huge, there's bound to be something you watch in that list. I know for me, there are probably at least 5 biggies that my cable company has that DirecTV doesn't. Plus DirecTV's SD channels are pretty much unwatchable. So if something isn't in HD, I can't stand to watch it on DirecTV, and that's as good as not having the channel at all.
  16. Nov 12, 2015 #56 of 106

    mobouser AllStar

    May 23, 2007
    If anyone is interested in trying just remenber their DVR is worthless. Buying a Roamio or Bolt is the way to go. You will have some work to get them paired you need a multistream card but then you can add minis to othe TV's cheap and easy. TWC charges around twelve a month for a DVR or 1.50 for a TIVO card, over a period of time the TIVO investment will pay for itself. I dont know how all the charges for TIVO works now with the liferime changes though. Picture quality for TWC is very good with only minor problems but its not perfect. We get a lot of HD stations and we also have Amazon Prime and Netflix right on the Roamio able to get 1080P with those services. We have the standard 20Mgb internet and thats all we need. Were not giving a full endorsement for TWC because when Verizon comes knocking we will make the switch to FIOS. All of the TIVos are supposed to work even better with FIOS.
  17. Nov 16, 2015 #57 of 106

    PayingBetaTester New Member

    Aug 30, 2012
    Been with DTV for 9 years on two HR24s and 8 years before with Dish. Been having the beginnings of hard drive failure symptoms on both HR24s for quite a while.
    Wanted to replace one HR24 with an HR44/54 and replace the other HR24 with another HR24. Called CS and was told I'd have to pay for a service call or shipping to replace DirecTV's dying HR24 but they would upgrade me to a Genie HR44/54 on the other dying HR24 at no charge with a two year commitment but they won't freeze programming price for that two year commitment. So investigated quitting DTV cold turkey but if I did I'd have to have a DVR whichever direction I went. Dish as a company is too weird a company and their hardware is way behind my acceptable curve. Cable here is way too expensive and their customer service is as bad as advertized.

    Took a long hard look at the TiVo Roamio OTA. OTA only but has four tuners and the legendary(?) TiVo software. Was available on a deal from TiVo for $299 including lifetime (of the unit) service and added the TiVo three year warranty for a total of $340 delivered. Best decision I've made in a long time for TV. Quiet, reliable, FOUR tuners and pretty nifty software. With the warranty I won't pay a cent even if it breaks for 36 months and there's NO MONTHLY fee EVER. Saves me $100 a month I was paying for DTV.

    Decided to cut the cord (satellite?) and order another TiVo Roamio OTA for the wife. TiVo has discontinued the Roamio OTA despite lots of people wanting to cut the cord, and they have the perfect product for those customers, so I went to Amazon who was still offering the Roamio OTA with lifetime service for $299 and snagged one. When it arrived I called TiVo to register and buy their 3 year warranty.

    Been without DTV for a couple weeks now and although I do miss The Walking Dead and some other programming I don't miss the $100 a month bill. A couple TiVo Roamios OTAs were the right move for me and it will only take 6 months of not paying DTV to offset the TiVo investment and I won't pay another cent beyond then.

    Called to close my DTV account this AM and they offered me a billing discount for 12 months and to replace both my dying HR24s with refurbs at no charge. I said no thanks.

    I've noticed that since the AT&T merger that DTV has been subtly changing (mutating?) so I'm interested to see the price increases this February and whether the legendary awful customer service that AT&T is famous for will seep into DTV.
  18. Nov 17, 2015 #58 of 106

    dpeters11 Hall Of Fame

    May 30, 2007
    On the flip side, there also have been some positive changes, though I don't know if it was due to AT&T or not, like in the change in upgrade contract terms.
  19. Nov 17, 2015 #59 of 106

    Eddie501 AllStar

    Nov 29, 2007
    PayingBetaTester, you are missing one key element of cord cutting with the Roamio OTA - you don't have to miss your favorite basic cable shows. If you're willing to spend some of that $100 savings, you can buy anything the day after it airs for about $3/episode. You can even set up a One Pass to pick it up from one of the built in streaming services so that it appears in the same playlist as your recordings. Buying my favorite shows ala carte is still a huge savings. With the added benefit that they're commercial free & don't have all the screen clutter that the cable channel has.
  20. Nov 17, 2015 #60 of 106

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    4 shows at 13 episodes a year is 117. That's more than his 100 savings. And that's assuming he only has 4 shows he likes and that their seasons are only 13 episodes! The only way to save is to wait till they show up on streaming go services or get them on disc via Netflix when they come out.

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