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Carnival Triumph (and other Carnival issues)

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Chris Blount, Feb 12, 2013.

  1. Feb 14, 2013 #21 of 226
    Rich

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    My wife and son and a couple friends went on that Alaska cruise a few years ago. My son and his friend were bummed out and stayed in their staterooms for the whole cruise. Too many "old folks" they said. They both brought X-Boxes with them.

    Having spent a whole lot of time in the Caribbean on a destroyer, I can't imagine how those huge ships stay afloat in bad weather. And, in the Caribbean, the weather comes up very suddenly.

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  2. Feb 14, 2013 #22 of 226
    SayWhat?

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    It should be limping into Mobile tonight. Wonder how many lawyers will be waiting?
     
  3. Feb 14, 2013 #23 of 226
    Blurayfan

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    The company is offering compensation voluntarily.

    1. Full refund of cruise
    2. Credit for future cruise
    3. $500 cash
    4. Hotel stay for those passengers who need it.
     
  4. Feb 14, 2013 #24 of 226
    Tom Robertson

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    Unfortunately the hotel rooms are in New Orleans--2 hours away by bus. Normally I wouldn't mind that arrangement--but not after 4 days of no water, no electricity, etc.

    And an alternative is a long bus ride to Galveston. Ouch.

    Peace,
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  5. Feb 14, 2013 #25 of 226
    Stuart Sweet

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    Not the Triumph but the Inspiration was a very nice ship.
     
  6. Feb 14, 2013 #26 of 226
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    CNN reporting that Carnival has you sign something that says you won't sue them if something like this happens. Other cruise lines also have you sign something similar.
     
  7. Feb 14, 2013 #27 of 226
    davring

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    The Carnival ships are constantly having electrical problems, they sit in the port here waiting on parts from Italy quite often. Mickey Arison buys Italian ships as they are less expensive than oriental ships. I don't think the Italians have ever designed\built anything electrical or mechanical that is reliable. Maybe he could get LeBron and Dwayne to chip in on the maintenance:)
     
  8. Feb 14, 2013 #28 of 226
    hdtvfan0001

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    The sad part is that this will likely have some degree of negative impact on other cruise lines even though they don't follow the same kinds of Carnival poor maintenance and (minimized) refurbishing practices.

    I've been on 8-year old Royal Caribbean ships that seem in better condition than 2 year old Carnival ships...and that's just the visible signs of how different companies handle things.

    I'll have a good yardstick quite soon while on a cruise on a 2004-built RC ship. It's important to note it's already been refurbished significantly 2 times to date and is again scheduled for another update/cleanup/repair maintenance later this year. In 2009, the same ship seemed nearly new when we sailed on it. We'll see how things look in comparison to the Carnival of horrors.

    How this has been handled by Carnival has been a disgrace to the industry.
     
  9. Feb 14, 2013 #29 of 226
    RAD

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    The two original Disney ships were built in the same ship yard as the Triumph and they don't have problems like this. Maybe it's just because one line spends money on upkeep while the other keeps fares low at the expense of maintenance?
     
  10. Feb 14, 2013 #30 of 226
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    I'd take it and be happy. In addition to this I see where they are forgiving charges you made while on board (basically your bar bill). Sure it might be a bit unpleasant but as someone who used to go camping regularly when I was younger, "roughing it" doesn't scare me too much, can't imagine roughing it on a cruise ship is worse than roughing it in a tent in the woods where if your lucky there might be an outhouse or a port-a-john if your somewhere fancy.
    So basically people on this ship got this cruise free, I'm sure they were having fun before things went wrong, and I'm the type I'd find ways to have fun even after. They're getting another cruise free, having all their travel expenses paid for getting home and another $500 on top of that? Yeah like I said I'd take it and be happy.
    I've cruised on both Carnival and Royal Caribbean, like them both, never have had any real problems with either and will continue to cruise in the future, in fact I've already got another one booked for this fall. Actually thinking about seeing if Carnival's prices fall because of this and maybe I'll book one for next year at a good discounted rate.
     
  11. Feb 14, 2013 #31 of 226
    Chris Blount

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    The cruise industry is pretty much bullet proof. Things like this don't happen very often. From what I heard today, bookings are actually up when the Triumph returns mainly because the ship will probably be in like new condition after they fix everything.
     
  12. Feb 14, 2013 #32 of 226
    RAD

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    Even if they were giving a cruise away for free on that ship I think I'd still take a pass. After seeing the pictures of the sh*t running down the walls I don't think they could every clean it up from all the places it's run into.
     
  13. Feb 14, 2013 #33 of 226
    SayWhat?

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    Who says they'll actually do a refurb?

    A washdown, some paint, scrub the carpets, fix the parts that actually failed, then cram a new load of pigeons aboard.
     
  14. Feb 14, 2013 #34 of 226
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    Not only maintenance, but training for emergencies. Also, yards can produce different results based on the involvement and inspections from the owner's during construction.
     
  15. Feb 14, 2013 #35 of 226
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    Got a link for that? I hadn't seen any pics like that anywhere
     
  16. Feb 14, 2013 #36 of 226
    RAD

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    CNN TV was showing a bunch of pics folks were sending them now they're in cellphone range, their web site has one of buckets on the floor filled with sewage they say.
     
  17. Feb 14, 2013 #37 of 226
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    One thought I had, the issue was caused by a fire in the engine room which knocked out the main generator. Would it be that hard to put an auxiliary generator in a whole separate part of the ship, it would not have to be big enough to run the whole ship but enough to run critical systems - water and sewage pumps, essential lighting, food refrigeration and cooking. While it would not be a fun time at least it would be bearable while the ship is towed back to port.
     
  18. Feb 15, 2013 #38 of 226
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    Watching them interview some people getting off the ship last night, CNN I think, wasn't really paying attention to which channel I landed on. Anyway I noticed that anyone who had a generally optimistic attitude about the whole thing weren't interviewed very long, you know the ones who said things like, well it was unfortunate but the crew did they best they could considering, were moved along after a couple of brief questions. However if you were one of those who wanted to complain to the world how you just endured the worst experience ever possible, they kept you on camera and encouraged you to go on and on. I did love the guy who when one of the reporters tried to goad him into making a negative statement by comparing what the people on the cruise ship endured to people who were stranded in New Orleans after Katrina, stopped the reporter and basically said wait a minute, Katrina was a horrible natural disaster, we were just hanging out on a cruise ship for a few days. He said that he had a fun 3 day vacation followed by a bad 4 day camping trip. Sounds about right to me. Honestly it's sad to think that there were people who spent those days just being miserable, I mean come on people, might as well have some fun and make the best of it. Hey you're going to have a story to tell the rest of your life!
     
  19. Feb 15, 2013 #39 of 226
    RAD

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    You would think so, but maybe the fire caused damage to the switching equipment that would allow for loads to be moved around between generators? IIRC these ships have multiple engines for generation of power, usually a couple large ones for propulsion and them smaller ones for the electrical load with units being brought online when needed, according to Wiki the Triumph has two large and four small generators. So I would guess unless the fire damaged all six of them it had to be damage to the switching gear and that probably didn't have any redundancy to it.
     
  20. Feb 15, 2013 #40 of 226
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    Speculation I read elsewhere by someone with navy experience: The fire suppression system, water, would ruin any electrical equipment that got wet.
     

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