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Carnival Triumph (and other Carnival issues)

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Chris Blount, Feb 12, 2013.

  1. klang

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    No Fair bringing actual facts to the discussion! :D



    For the record, my wife and I prefer the sailing yachts of WindStar. :)
    Haven't been on one the big boats in years.
     
  2. tsmacro

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    Those look like they'd be fun. :) Maybe someday, that and I'd to try one of those European river cruises someday. I need more time and of course money!
     
  3. James Long

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    And the hits (or misses) just keep on coming ...

    Carnival nightmare: Another cruise ship reports trouble at sea

    (CNN) -- First it was Triumph, then Elation, Dream and now Legend.

    While they are happy names for cruise ships, some passengers say they've had experiences recently that belie those names.

    In yet another setback, Carnival Cruise ship Legend is having technical difficulties that are affecting its sailing speed, the latest in a growing list of woes for the travel company.

    The Legend was on the last leg of a seven-day Caribbean cruise that departed Tampa on Sunday. Within a span of a month, three other Carnival Cruise ships have reported problems.

    Carnival Dream lost power and some toilets stopped working Wednesday, and no one was allowed to get off the vessel docked at Philipsburg, St. Maarten, in the eastern Caribbean. Carnival says it is flying the more than 4,000 passengers back to Florida and will give them discounts.

    Carnival Elation had to be escorted by a tugboat Saturday because of a malfunction in its steering system, the cruise company said.

    www.cnn.com/2013/03/15/travel/carnival-problems/index.html

    The Triumph was a failure, Elation left passengers less than happy, the Dream turned into a nightmare and the Legend of the Carnival cruse continues. Perhaps the cruise line will need to change its name when they are done?
     
  4. djlong

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    Carnival should start marketing their cruises like those murder-mystery dinners.

    (in my best Vincent Price voice)
    "Take a Carnival Cruise... ...who knows what will happen next!"
     
  5. hdtvfan0001

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    This is about the point where "I told you so..." comes into play when it comes to Carnival Cruise Lines.
     
  6. wilbur_the_goose

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    Holy Guano! :)

    (It's an appropriate post in Carnival's case :) )
     
  7. hdtvfan0001

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    Walmart of the Seas?
     
  8. RunnerFL

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    I'm kinda starting to think they are being sabotaged. I don't think even the worst cruise line can have all this happen in such a short period of time without some malice involved.
     
  9. hdtvfan0001

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    Actually for those who follow how Carnival handles their ship refurb program and maintenance...this comes as no surprise.

    They have been the "bargain party boat" cruise line with corresponding minimal ship investment in maintenance for years. It seems that corporate mantra is simply catching up with them.
     
  10. Chris Blount

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    I agree. On the other hand Carnival is under a microscope right now so every big or little issue that happens with the cruise line is blasted out all over the world. The other day on the local news a passenger was complaining about how the shrimp on the ship made her husband sick. Carnival confined him to his room but there was no outbreak on the ship in general. It's likely the passenger was infected with something before he even got on the ship.

    A Google search easily reveals issues on other cruise lines (virus outbreaks, mechanical breakdowns, etc) but those are not advertised since Carnival is the target right now.
     
  11. Nick

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    I never desired to cruise -- now, after all these adverse shipboard events, no way I would ever even step on board a cruise ship. I don't want to be forced to tolerate sh*t flowing down cabin/passageway walls while being held captive and at the mercy of a cruise line's gross incompetence.

    No way - never, never ever! :nono:
     
  12. wilbur_the_goose

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    +1 Nick!
     
  13. Tom Robertson

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    Nick, be sure to avoid them 3 hour cruises out of Hawaii... :)
     
  14. Chris Blount

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    I can understand having reservations, but it's another one of those "wrong place at the wrong time" sort of things. When a cruise goes right, it goes very right and is a fun and refreshing experience.

    If you get on an airplane, it's basically the same deal. What you have to consider are the odds. The amount of cruises that have happened over the past year and the hundreds of thousands of people that have cruised, vs the cruise ships that have had major issues, you can easily see the chances of you being on one of the "bad" ships is very small.

    IMHO, to say "never, ever" is robbing yourself of an experience that you probably would have very much enjoyed.
     
  15. PCampbell

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    But there fun.
     
  16. tsmacro

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    Those of us who have cruised (and cruised often) know its an amazing and terrific experience.

    In fact, it's one of the few remaining true "relaxing vacations" left, and a great value if planned properly.

    Then gain...it always depends upon which provider delivers the service.

    There are some cruise lines that are proven excellent over time, while a few others fail to do so. The issue with Carnival at this point is that they are getting it wrong in significant ways and repeating that negative experience. Most of it centers on their procedures and policies surrounding ship maintenance - which has been well documented.

    But for those who aren't knowledgeable about cruising...one bad apple can indeed spoil it for all the others.

    Yet plenty of us who go cruising as frequently as feasible, and will continue to do so as long as it's with a cruise line that has proven their quality of ships, services, food, entertainment, and destinations.

    Having returned 2 weeks ago from yet another cruise....I found it interesting that the individual who sat next to us at the main dining room table had been on 62 cruises to date. He indicated only 2 had negative experiences....both on Carnival ships. He's sailed on 4 different cruise lines. That's not any kind of scientific survey, but it reinforces Carnival's track record.

    In the mean time...there are plenty of good alternative providers to enjoy the cruising experience. It's a shame Carnival is tainting the experience for some other folks.
     
  18. Nick

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    They're not the same. ;)
     
  19. tsmacro

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    Absolutely have to enthusiastically agree with you! The way I look at it at any given time there's oh probably a couple hundred good-sized cruise ships out there with thousands of people on them. Probably something like 99% of the time or more everything goes great! Of course people like to point to all the "horror stories" on the internet about bad experiences. Well once again there's thousands of people on most cruise ships it's probably statistically impossible for all of them to have everything be perfect for all of them, not to mention there's just some people who just inclined to be miserable and unhappy to begin with. And you know if there's 2000 passengers on a ship and 1950 of them have a great time you don't hear about that, but boy you can bet the 50 that had a "problem" will be crowing about it as loud as they can to the point where you'd think that the cruise they just got back from was the worst thing ever and no one should be stupid enough to ever to go on a cruise again. You just can't get wrapped up in the hype, the media loves to sensationalize everything, as far as I can tell the only cruise ship "incident" recently that has deserved the attention it's gotten is the Concordia sinking, all the rest can be chalked up to the everyday happenings in life. Ya know sometimes stuff just happens, things break down, people get sick, accidents happen and cruise ships are certainly not any more immune to such things as anything else in life. In fact I think it's not pushing it to say you're safer on one of those ships than most places in the world!
     
  20. tsmacro

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    Absolutely agree with cruises being just about the most relaxing vacation and I also will continue cruise as often as feasably possible, unfortunately for me at this point it's not until October, but it will be 11 days when I finally do get to go!

    Of course you already know I disagree with you about Carnival, always had really good experiences with them myself. I realize right now they're an easy target to pile on to and you like to keep pointing out everytime they have a problem, but I do sense a bias with you because you only seem to point out when Carnival has a problem and ignore when others do. When I recently did some research (posted the links earlier in this same thread) it didn't seem to me that Carnival really had any more problems than any other cruise line. But that's ok I guess if they're as bad as you'd have us believe they'll end up putting themselves out of business and you won't have to worry about their "taint" any more.
     

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