CBS All Access to become Paramount+ in 2021

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  1. NashGuy

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    Yeah, ViacomCBS is IMO spreading their content pretty thin between their own subscription services, their many linear channels, Pluto TV, plus licensing deals with competing services, like the deal to put past seasons of Yellowstone on Peacock. That said, one of the ViacomCBS honchos said recently that their plan is to pull back a lot of that stuff to their own service (Paramount+) in a couple years or so. I guess the thought is that they can grow the audience for some of those shows right now by distributing them more widely, plus make some additional licensing money. But it will be a bit odd that the one true hit that the Paramount Network has produced, Yellowstone, will apparently be absent from Paramount+ when that service debuts next year.
     
  2. phrelin

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    Just to add further confusion, according to THR the Paramount cable channel is to be rebranded as the Paramount Movie Network in 2021 dropping most of its ongoing series (other than flagship Yellowstone) in favor of original movies and a handful of short-run scripted shows per year. I have no idea whether those original movies etc. will appear on Paramount+.
     
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    OMG. It sounds like the folks at Paramount have done a Vulcan Mind Meld with the ATT geniuses that have named THEIR products.
     
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  4. techguy88

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    I can't remember where I saw this exactly but it was a comment someone posted shortly after the news broke of the new name. Someone said "this is the most AT&T move by a non-AT&T company I've ever seen." I agreed with that and even more so now lol.
     
  5. Rich

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    IIRC, I watched Yellowstone on the Paramount app the first time. The picture quality on that app was so bad I gave up on Yellowstone quickly. Then I got the Peacock app and tried Yellowstone again and enjoyed it thoroughly. Much better PQ on that app. I'd say the Paramount app needs some work.

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  6. TheRatPatrol

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    That is a bit odd, why would they do that?
     
  7. NashGuy

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    Based on what I've read, I think the idea to license those back seasons of Yellowstone to Peacock is to (A) score that additional licensing revenue and (B) expose the show to a wider audience and build lasting popularity for it. I guess they think that a lot of folks will use Peacock due to it being free/cheap and heavily promoted by Comcast.

    It sounds like the current plan is for ViacomCBS to generally keep new seasons of their cable TV shows exclusive to the linear channels, though, and not share them with Paramount+ (as they do with CBS shows). So if you want to see the latest eps of Yellowstone, those will likely remain exclusive to Paramount Movie Network. But I don't know if the current deal to license back seasons of Yellowstone to Peacock is an exclusive. Those seasons may well show up on both Peacock and Paramount+ (same way that The Affair and Ray Donovan are on both Peacock and Showtime).
     
  8. inkahauts

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    Personally I think they may be taking the approach used all through history of selling syndication rerun rights to multiple outlets to broaden shows reach as others have mentioned. Do people realize how many channels friends is on for example?
     
  9. Rich

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    How many?

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  10. billsharpe

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    I'm sure I am in the minority but I haver never watched Friends and seldom watched I Love Lucy.

    I did like Cheers, Mash, and Hogan's Heroes to name three. And I'm busy watching the old Perry Mason 50's shows on CBS All Access.
     
  11. Rich

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    I never liked I Love Lucy. I thought the character (Lucy) was obnoxious. I did like the Mertz's tho. My mother and father were raving about the new show and I was allowed to stay up to watch an episode. They laughed thru the show and I sat there wondering what was so funny. Just me, I never got the Three Stooges movies either.

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  12. SamC

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    The idea of the rerun is that as means of delivery increase is that the idea of an "exclusive" to any streaming service or linear channel is an illusion. ALL shows will eventually end up shown 1000s of times on a plethora of outlets. Finally, with the last few cents of value being squeezed out of it on minor netlet channels in the middle of the night selling ads for a "dollar a holler".

    If you pay for "exclusive" content, you might as well write "sucker" on your forehead.
     
  13. James Long

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    Most exclusives are timed ... the old progression for a theatrical film was: Big Theaters, Little Theaters, Cheap Theaters - Somewhere along that line the film would be released to premium movie channels (HBO or Showtime or both) before being released through other cable channels. As technology changed DVD and VHS releases were introduced. Historically after the premium movie channels but now I see more DVD releases pre-premium channel. Technology has also brought us PPV channels (modern version of the VHS being available for rental months before being available for sale).

    It is all crafted to make the most money possible. People who are willing to pay $$$ per person to sit in a theater see something before people willing to pay a few cents for a cable channel or nothing at all to watch on a diginet. People who choose not to wait for a cheaper price get to see the content sooner.
     
  14. inkahauts

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    I know at least four at once, maybe even five for a while, and while it was on Netflix as well.... seemed like ten channels to be honest....
     
  15. Rich

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    I looked thru the Guide and found a couple of channels that carried it. I didn't do a search for Friends, just wandered thru the Guide. I'd rather watch that series on HBO Max. Don't care about the cost. PQ is gonna be better, that I care about.

    I had that series on DVD, never watched it. I did watch it when it first came out but missed a whole lot of episodes. That apartment they live in always bothered me. An apartment like that would cost a fortune unless it was rent-controlled, in NYC. You gotta make a small fortune to live in the City.

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  16. James Long

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    They addressed that complaint on the final show. :)
     
  17. inkahauts

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    They where under rent control and using it via Monica’s aunt or something like that. The building manager even knew and there was an episode where Joey had to teach the building manager how to dance to keep him from telling the owner they where illegally using her relatives ancient lease. Because Joey got them in trouble...

    Friends is on 3 channels now it seems... local (KTLA for me) TBS and Nickelodeon’s.

    HBO Max is the good way to watch. Although the collector box dvd edition had more scenes in it including some unaired. Anything on tv with commercials is missing scenes that even originally aired to shrink the time and add more commercials. Same with most older reruns I believe.
     
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    I have the DVD collection somewhere. DVDs look like hell on my 4K sets. I'll stick with HBO for that series. I'm not even sure we have a BD player that works in the house.

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    Figured that was the only way normal mortals could rent such an apartment in Manhatten. Over the years, I've been in a lot of apartments in the City and they were all cramped. The one thing I saw in every one of them was a fireplace. I also saw a lot of Murphy beds. I have never been in a relatively new apartment.

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  20. espaeth

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    Apparently push notifications are going out to people who subscribed to the Smithsonian Channel Plus service, now all of that content is being moved to CBS All Access (and presumably Paramount+ in the future).

    I just checked and all the stuff I would normally watch on Smithsonian is now available to watch commercial free via my Showtime/CBS:AA subscription through Apple TV Channels.
     

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