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CES 2013: Engadget posts a hands on for the HR44

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Mike Bertelson, Jan 8, 2013.

  1. Jan 19, 2013 #81 of 111
    macfan601

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    OK, let's just agree to disagree. I like Directv, but I am not in love with Directv. The problem with being in love is that you tend not to see faults even when you are on top of them. I think there are plenty of things Directv could improve on. We do agree on one thing,, they are the best of what is currently out there right now. I do not just blindly accept that though and I am always looking at alternatives that might better meet my needs.
     
  2. Jan 19, 2013 #82 of 111
    Sixto

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    We agree. I also have FiOS TV to continually compare/contrast with my only other tier-1 provider, Cable is rarely competitive, and Dish can't compete in my geography due to lack of basic content like my RSNs. I'm hoping for much DirecTV enhancement in the mobile/cloud DVR management area, offline sync management and speed, and tweaks to the remote MRV Playlist capability. Have posted my thoughts in the 2013 wishlist thread.
     
  3. Jan 20, 2013 #83 of 111
    patmurphey

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    The user space on the Hopper is 1.25TB and external storage is unlimited (for the account) 2TB, 2 connected at a time. Are you saying that HR44/34s make all of the 1TB available to the user. I think not. New Hopper has faster processor, wireless support and Sling built in.
     
  4. Jan 20, 2013 #84 of 111
    Scott Kocourek

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    How do you know what processor is in the 44?
     
  5. Jan 20, 2013 #85 of 111
    veryoldschool

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    A down & dirty "guess" comes out at about 70% for the user.
     
  6. Jan 20, 2013 #86 of 111
    hdtvfan0001

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    I was wondering the same thing...having seen both units firsthand for extended periods of time a few weeks ago...there is no discernible user experience speed difference, including menus, guide, etc.

    The HR44 also can operate in wireless mode.

    Note: The Dish deceptive advertising seen at CES recently about the Sling Hopper being 3X faster than the Genie actually was based on a comparison with the original (slower) firmware from months ago on the HR34 - which is now much faster. The HR44 is even faster still. Claiming to have a 2TB drive but only having a little over 1/2 that is equally deceptive. It would seem the Dish marketing folks need to get up to speed (pun intended).
     
  7. Jan 20, 2013 #87 of 111
    P Smith

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    But really, why not tell us what is in new HR44 ? I'm pretty sure you know.
     
  8. Jan 20, 2013 #88 of 111
    chrisjmccord

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    I almost want to cancel my appointment this coming Sunday so that I can wait for the HR44, it just feels like the right thing to do.
     
  9. Jan 20, 2013 #89 of 111
    dpeters11

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    But it would be highly likely that since it's considered a Genie, and in the same class as the HR34, DirecTV would not be able to guarantee you get one, even if you did subscribe when they are available nationally. Generally the only way to guarantee it is to have the installation set up directly with an installer that will do that.
     
  10. Jan 20, 2013 #90 of 111
    Mike Greer

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    As one of DirecTV’s biggest critics I have to agree with SOME of your thoughts although on this rare occasion I’ll have to side with DirecTV on most of your comments…

    I do agree that they cater to “Joe average or Ma and Pa Kettle” as they should, sadly… They are in business to make money – period. I hate it but that is the truth. Their DVRs are too stinking slow for me – but they are going for “Joe average or Ma and Pa Kettle” and that crowd along with a good number of ‘high-enders’ don’t care.

    If they want to cater to the high-end they’ll need to make some changes… Things like faster on-demand downloads, their pay-per-view would need to be full bit-rate blu-ray quality in both video and audio – as in loss-less compression on the audio, more functional and standard IP control, external drives that can be moved from one DVR to another and few more things like that…

    5 tuners are good for by far the majority of even the high-enders. At least it will be when they allow you to have multiple HR34/44s. Storage capacity is an easy fix for a high-ender with external drives. Having the power supply external is kind of mixed blessing but for just about everyone it is a good thing.

    Improvements found in the HR44 still keep DirecTV ahead of all the providers I can use. The speed (if real! I haven’t seen it myself) is an important thing for me. As is being able to use RF and IR remotes at the same time are. The wireless doesn’t really appeal to me right now as my house is well-wired but I think to many people it will be a welcome addition.

    I am personally cautiously optimistic about the HR44.
     
  11. Jan 20, 2013 #91 of 111
    veryoldschool

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    Just don't get three of them or you know one of them will give you fits. :lol:
     
  12. Jan 20, 2013 #92 of 111
    Mike Greer

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    No doubt!:lol:
     
  13. Jan 20, 2013 #93 of 111
    chrisjmccord

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    And thats not something a "new customer" can request huh, only if I were an existing customer who said I'd pay for one...right?

    I think this is wrong of them, they should be able to give me the newer box upon request if I'm signing up and they are available.
     
  14. Jan 21, 2013 #94 of 111
    veryoldschool

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    A new install gets what's on the order "and" what's on the truck at the time.
     
  15. Jan 21, 2013 #95 of 111
    dpeters11

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    This is a point if major disagreement on how things are handled, but no one can specifically request a particular box. A reseller like Solid Signal lets you order a specific model, but not anything more specific, at least last I checked.
     
  16. Jan 21, 2013 #96 of 111
    hdtvfan0001

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    Yup...that's how things work.

    And other providers have similar policies - no guarantees on specific model devices.
     
  17. Jan 21, 2013 #97 of 111
    Richierich

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    That is why you need to get the Installer's Phone Number and call them before they come and ask them if they have what you want and ask for a Morning Appointment which helps to guarantee that they don't run out if they do have it on the truck.
     
  18. Jan 21, 2013 #98 of 111
    patmurphey

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    Oh, and DirecTV DOESN'T claim that they have a 1TB drive? Talk about calling the kettle black...

    ...The 2TB drive is used for a myriad of features including 1.25TB user storage and the advertised number of hours of programming that can be stored is accurate. Who needs to get up to speed?
     
  19. Jan 21, 2013 #99 of 111
    RunnerFL

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    With DirecTV the customer gets 9/10 of the drive. With Dish the customer gets 5/8. There's a difference there.
     
  20. veryoldschool

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    I don't think anybody in marketing has "clean hands".

    Maybe a question might be "how dirty" are their hands?

    A 2TB drive is twice as big as a 1TB drive, but the user only gets 30% more recording space. :confused:
     

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