CES2008 - Official xStreamHD information

Discussion in 'XStreamHD (Closed Forum)' started by Earl Bonovich, Jan 10, 2008.

  1. DStroyer

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    I agree. I think we'll eventually see the "Dish XStreamHD" package, or the "DirecTV XStreamHD" package... delivered via subscribers' existing dishes to their ViP622/722 or HR-20/21 with beefed-up XStreamHD software installed.

    One thing that gets me... The "X* box"(?) ATSC tuner only covers UHF?! My local CBS and NBC affiliates' digital channels are on 11 and 13! Oops! (Unless they're not planning on staying on those channels after 2/17/09... I don't know.)
     
  2. JRich7911

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    Another set top box, another dish? Give me a break. DirecTV is positioned to do this right now with either PPV or VOD. I don't think we need another solution and an expensive one at that.
     
  3. spoonman

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    Why, because no one has the speed for really VOD.
     
  4. kevinturcotte

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    Outside...
    Neither Dish or Directv are prepared to deliver movies in 1080p OR 7.1 lossless audio. Yes, that is a niche market, but slowly growing. A few years ago, regular HD was a niche market.
    I do think it'll go the way of Voom though. Dish or Directv will buy it off.
     
  5. Sirshagg

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    It also looks like the player uses a network connection exclusively for input (from the server). Are there really alot of people out there with gigabit ethernet at all their TV locations?
     
  6. bonscott87

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    I didn't notice that. 2 of our affiliates will be in VHF *after* the analog shutdown. If it can only tune UHF then it's worthless IMO.
     
  7. inkahauts

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    No digital stations are broadcasting in a VHF frequency, as the whole point of shutting down the analogue frequencies is to free of the VHF bandwidth to auction. All of the major stations in LA broadcast their analogue station on VHF, digital station in UHF, but digital stations in LA still show the original VHF station number, they are being remapped from their UHF station numbers so that consumers see a seamless transition. I have checked Wilkes Barre, PA, and you are all UHF stations for digital transmissions. See this link... anyone can pop in their zip and see what frequency is actually carrying the broadcast, as well as what channel number it should show up as because of remapping...

    http://www.titantv.com/quickguide/quickguide.aspx
     
  8. inkahauts

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    I downloaded all three HD movies from Directv DOD yesterday. Each one downloaded in under 2 hours, at an almost 1 to 1 ratio. I am on DSL. Speed net says I run at about 5175 kbps. 1080p would obviously take longer, but hey.... I can always start a download before I eat dinner, then sit down to watch a movie...
     
  9. Austin316

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    Channel 8 broadcast digital on vhf 7 and Channel 13 does it on channel 12 in the tampa dma. While it rare there are other markets that have digital vhf channels.
     
  10. bonscott87

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    Totally incorrect in many markets.

    In my local market our CBS is on digital 2, NBC is on digital 7.
    PBS is digital 5.

    After the analog shutodwn NBC will be staying on digital 7 and CBS will move to digital 8. Both VHF of course.
    Not sure if PBS is staying on 5 or not.
     
  11. Drewg5

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    I would jump on a system like this if they also offered the networks I want like TNT FX and so on..
     
  12. Tom Servo

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    Pssh. I wonder how long those downloads would take on our crappy DSL? I usually peg out at a whopping 1350 kbps (135Kbps). Not to mention the constant service interruptions. Doubt I'd ever get a whole movie all at once.

    As for the digital channels, the broadcasters pitched a fit over losing the VHF allocations, because in their minds the 'coverage is better'. That was true in 1960 when UHF tuners stank, but nowadays they're a lot better. Plus, few want big rabbit ears or a large 160" boom antenna on a tower anymore.

    That being said, many broadcasters are being snookered by the VHF digital stuff. In Birmingham the ABC affiliate's two transmitter sites are both on VHF, and so far very people in the city can pick up either.
     
  13. kog

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    Did anyone else notice that on the spec sheet for the receiver it mentions:

    "USB 2.0 Hi-Speed 480Mbps: MP3 Player, Flash and Solid State Drive Support"

    in the rear panel section, but if you look at the diagram I can't see any signs of an USB port. Just curious. It would be neat to be able to hook up drives to the receivers for additional storage.
     
  14. bonscott87

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    You might have missed it but this isn't a channel service. It's a pure Movie VOD service. Think Netflix delivered by satellite with OTA tuners tossed in as a bonus.
     
  15. squawk

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    I met George Gonzalez two years ago @ CES while we were both admiring the yet to be released first Pioneer Elite 108op 50" plasma. Then George shared with me the technology he had developed to deliver non-compressed HD video via satellite to consumer's homes. Kudos to him.

    I've skimmed over much of the discussion here & am of the opinion there is a market for this service but it is oriented to the high-end consumer who is willing to pay extra coin to view recently released content in full 1080p HD. In that respect, George's company needs to partner with DirecTV, Dish and/or cable because none of the former are close to, nor willing to deliver non-compressed HD to their customers in the foreseeable future.

    DirecTV caters to the high-end video customer; Dish does not, however, Dish probably attracts consumer more interested in HD movies than in HD sports. Cable, IMHO, is now struggling to retain the high-end consumer with the "promise" of 100 HD channels, but what is really HD-VOD, which arguably is what Xtreme HD offers.

    Bottom line, I think George's Company, in the next year to two years, will receive a lotta interest, not just from consumers, but from the major providers of multichannel video that must compete on a competitive HD platform that did not really exist until this year. JMO.
     
  16. kog

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    From what I gather this could be a very interesting service offering. But it would depend a lot on the pricing and the user rights on the materials downloaded to the unit. Until we find out things such:

    1) Are the movies rentals or do we own it?
    2) If they're rentals how long can we keep it and watch it?
    3) If we own it, what happens if the disks die? Can we download again without paying again?
    4) What happens if the company goes belly up. What happens to the content on the units?

    Right now, we really don't have a lot to go on so I'll remain cautiously optimistic. :)
     
  17. inkahauts

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    Yeah, I should have said most markets, not all, but many? And for the specific person, I check his DMA, and all his stations are on UHF. Now of course I'm curios. I will have to see if I can figure out how many. I'm guessing that it is going to be less than 3% of all channels in all markets.
     
  18. bonscott87

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    I don't really like to pimp other sites but Satguys has a pretty long video interview with the CEO and he explains a lot of things pretty well.

    Anyway, I really do like the concept of this service and may sign up if I have the spare change. BUT this is going nowhere without satellite space and studios on board, neither of which they have right now.
     
  19. Earl Bonovich

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    Go ahead and post the link.

    Scott did his homework, and knew more about the service then I did before getting to CES... heck I learned about the XStreamHD when I was walking the main floor at CES.

    He did a good job at scheduling some interviews with their staff & executives.
     
  20. spoonman

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    I think there will be both rentals and own. Most likely they will have to cater to what the content providers want at first to get them to sign up. I hope we can get more info over the coming months.
     

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