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Closed Captioning Feature

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Feb 13, 2009.

Do you use Closed Captioning?

  1. Yes, frequently

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  2. Yes, occasionally

    115 vote(s)
  3. No

    130 vote(s)
  4. Never heard of it

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  1. Sep 8, 2009 #81 of 106

    BubblePuppy Good night dear Smoke... love you & "got your butt

    Nov 3, 2006
    The little that I have used the "Yellow" cc, I found it to be identical to the regular CC, but in a very obnoxious yellow color. I have stopped using it. If there is a difference, I haven't noticed it.
  2. Sep 8, 2009 #82 of 106

    Steve Well-Known Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    Looks like DirecTV is using an "outlined" (in black) version of the Frutiger 2 normal-sized font, against a transparent background. It's the "outline" that's different, I believe. I like this, because the font has smoother edges and the program shows nicely through it, but I actually wish the font size was smaller. I got used to the yellow, so not an issue for me, but I can see why some may not like it.

    For regular closed captions, I normally use Frutiger 2, size "small", with a translucent background and white letters. Since these fonts are not "outlined", if I choose a transparent background, the edges of the font look "ragged".

    Ideal thing for me would be if DirecTV could add outlined versions of the fonts to normal closed captioning. Then I'd use Frutiger 2, outlined, small, white, and a transparent background.
  3. Sep 8, 2009 #83 of 106

    Syzygy Hall Of Fame

    Dec 5, 2005
    That's sorta funny. You saw "Yellow shortcut" and your brain said "Yellow CC" -- which is to say, "Subtitles", a new feature in 0x034C.

    But, gee, I was hoping the Subtitle font was higher resolution than the CC fonts. That's what's really needed.
  4. Sep 8, 2009 #84 of 106

    BubblePuppy Good night dear Smoke... love you & "got your butt

    Nov 3, 2006
    Actually, in use, the CC and Subtitles are the same thing, the two are not different feeds, I don't think.
  5. May 24, 2011 #85 of 106

    EricJRW Icon

    Jul 6, 2008
    Keller, TX
    Is there a shortcut to use CC the old way?

    While I somewhat like the new yello-button menu bar, all the extra button presses for CC bug me.

  6. May 24, 2011 #86 of 106

    Herdfan Well-Known Member

    Mar 18, 2006
    Wife uses it at night when our daughter is going to bed as her room is just off the living room. I will use it if I missed a bit of dialog that I can't make out even with repeated replays.
  7. May 24, 2011 #87 of 106

    spartanstew Dry as a bone

    Nov 16, 2005
    Wylie, Texas
    Unfortunately, no.
  8. May 24, 2011 #88 of 106

    TheFigurehead AllStar

    Mar 28, 2009
    Except for sports, I have to use closed captioning. DirecTV CC option is much better than what I have seen with Comcast DVR's.
  9. May 24, 2011 #89 of 106

    EricJRW Icon

    Jul 6, 2008
    Keller, TX
    Bummer... But I guess this survey shows it only going to affect about 33% the people most of the time and 33% part of the time.
  10. May 25, 2011 #90 of 106
    Jon J

    Jon J Grouch Extrordinaire

    Apr 22, 2002
    Music City, USA
    So, 2/3 are affected in some way. Rather substantial margin, I would think.
  11. May 25, 2011 #91 of 106

    bigjoelee Legend

    Aug 19, 2008
    I use the CC all the time, and I wish I could easily set the CC to come on when I mute the tv, that is primarily the time I would use it (tv is set to do this but cc doesn't come over HDMI i guess?). If that happened I would have no problem making the CC less accessible. My suggestion to replace it a quick link to the "to do list" OMG how many key strokes does it take to find out what shows you want to watch tonight.
    yet another 2c in the wish fountain
  12. May 25, 2011 #92 of 106

    sdirv Icon

    Dec 14, 2008
    I use it a lot......my hearing was damaged by "military noise" while serving in Vietnam, as well as a lifetime of rock and roll music and working around big diesel trucks in various garages.....

    I usually do OK when I "turn the volume up" on my surround system, but my wife isn't hard of hearing so having the system LOUD is problematic for her.

    Also..I'm retired, she's not.....so she turns in (usually) before I do. CC lets me turn the TV down and still be able to follow the dialog.

    Of course.....I could just use my hearing aids, but they are a pain in the ass and batteries aren't free.

    Hadn't thought about programming my Harmony remote to turn on CC when muting, will have to give that a go......sounds like a great idea.
  13. May 25, 2011 #93 of 106

    Steve Well-Known Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    I've posted this elsewhere but not in this thread, AFAIK, so apologies if you've already heard me whining about this. :p

    Since YELLOW and INFO are now redundant (and an inch apart on the remote), during LIVE TV or recording playback, why can't YELLOW become a dedicated CC button? Pressing it could simply cycle through CC, SUBTITLES and OFF, and free up the CC tab on the INFO bar for another function.

    As a precedent, I suggest looking at the FiOS TV remote, e.g., which uses the "*" button on the numeric keypad to cycle through CC1-CC4 and "off". Or just about any DVD player remote's dedicated "subtitle" key.

    Just my .02.
  14. May 25, 2011 #94 of 106

    Beerstalker Hall Of Fame

    Feb 9, 2009
    Peoria, IL
    I believe it has been stated that the yellow button is most likely going to start serving a new function pretty soon (PIP or some kind of controls for the HR34/thin client setups). Since DirecTV likes to have all of their receivers/remotes function the same way they are changing it on the older receivers as well.

    However, I do like you suggestion of possibly using the - key to toggle captions. The only problem with that is for people who are using OTA tuners, or who don't hide their SD and HD duplicates they need the - key for typing in channel numbers. Maybe they could use the enter button at the bottom right though. I don't think that really serves any unique function.
  15. May 25, 2011 #95 of 106

    Steve Well-Known Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    You may be right they have other plans for YELLOW, but I'd be surprised if they were PIP- or HR34-specific, since those are not features supported by the millions of existing boxes out in the field. Just my .02.
  16. May 25, 2011 #96 of 106

    mluntz Icon

    Jul 13, 2006
    Holy cow!

    Never use it, but I definitely understand the needs for it!
  17. May 25, 2011 #97 of 106

    EricJRW Icon

    Jul 6, 2008
    Keller, TX
    Even two presses of yellow to get to the CC would not be bad. The guide, info, etc. buttons have double-press functionality.

    If the second yellow press would bring up CC menu with an option highlighted, a press of the select would still keep it to three button presses.

    Turning off would work the same way. If CC is on, the CC menu comes up with the option to turn it off already highlighted...

    But I agree... Info button should do what yellow button does now and yellow button should go back to its old self (including bookmarks).
  18. May 25, 2011 #98 of 106

    BattleScott Hall Of Fame

    Aug 28, 2006
    What would be cool is if you could define what function you wanted each of the colored buttons to do when not within a menu or function that uses them.
  19. May 25, 2011 #99 of 106

    Drucifer Well-Known Member

    Feb 12, 2009
    NY Hudson...
    Which makes it placement on the new Channel Banner rather strange.

    Someone apparently wasn't paying attention to us members and more importantly -- THEIR CUSTOMERS!
  20. TomCat

    TomCat Broadcast Engineer

    Aug 31, 2002
    I agree, and I use it (too many years in too many rock bands). I was surprised that it was above 10% for either.

    I have what some might consider an "elaborate" setup. Since I double-record for security anyway, I play back one version without CC on the big screen, and play back another version on a smaller screen with CC next to (and somewhat further back than) the big screen, delayed about 5-10 seconds. This allows just a glance to the right to pick up a line I may have missed (no rewinding or fumbling with turning CC on or off). Its a little clumsy getting used to at first, but this is how I have been doing all serious viewing for many years now. I would not do it any other way. I do not, but you could do this with a remote that does macro sequences pretty easily.

    It has a few other benefits (not even to mention the opportunity for a second glance when a hot actress crosses her legs or plays with her hair :)). For one, the main screen is never spoiled by having CC on it, plus, it is always available exactly when I need it (just after I might miss a line).

    Also, I have found that a second set in the room running the same program creates exactly the right amount of ambient light for night-time viewing at exactly the right time (it tracks the main video so automatically adjusts the ambience). If you place the second set next to but also somewhat behind the big set, the light from the small set reflects off the back of the big set onto the wall behind the big set (unless you use a wall mount, which I abhor anyway).

    That works a little like the Philips "Ambi-Light" (now departed) and probably as well as home theatre systems that do this for hundreds of dollars (and those systems don't track the video with the proper amount of ambient light). If you only want the ambient light alone, just put the small set directly behind the big set facing the wall and feed it the same signal.

    What. Overshare?
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