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Combine AT9 Dish w/ Existing SatC Dish? Trees!

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  1. doctor j

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    I combined the 110/119 as this was intended to be a full 5 sat / 2 or 3 dish solution.
    It does work fine as a single 99/101/103 solution but several threads have questioned the guide data issue. No one has confirmed that it is a real issue.
    Mine was a test setup therefore the tripods on the deck. But i've had it up for a week or two at a time with no issues.

    Happy to respond to other questions.

    It is a big dish / a bit of a pain to align.
    The mount is massive ,easily 4 times the size/ bulk/ weight of the AT-9/AU-9 mount.
    The signal power is massive also, about 10X the AT-9.

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  2. doctor j

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    A hawaii installer reported many single dish 99/101/103 installs w/o problems

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  3. Dirac

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    Sounds like you don't have the dish anymore (never was permanently installed)?

    Where would I pick one of these up? The Satellite Shop is the only place I found with Google. Of course if anyone wanted to send me one I'd be happy to test it out for everyone here... :D
     
  4. Tom Robertson

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    Take a receiver and have all the tuners aimed at 103 for a day. Wait for reboot...

    (Unless you are using a SWM, that also will work just as an SL3 will.)

    Cheers,
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  5. doctor j

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    I have the dish and recently set it up again to answer a specific problem another member was having with the LNB.
    Mount was reversed 180 degrees. moved it about an inch on the arm but that littte nudge was the difference in bringing in both 99 and 103 as opposed to one or the other. ie the alignment pain!

    I do have SWM's as my main distribution option at present.

    Also have MFH-1 stacker and WB-68's as pieces of other experiments.

    My dish/multiswitch/receiver setup changes weekly.

    Wife approval factor failed on the permanent DTVAH12DISH installation!
     
  6. doctor j

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    Satellite shop is where I bought mine and they were great to work with!

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  7. Dirac

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    I'm hoping the WAF of not losing another "American Idol" recording to rain fade will outweigh the WAF of keeping the smaller dish. :D

    Thanks for all the advice, guys. It now appears that since there are no technical hurdles (just leave the receivers dialed in to the 103 bird for 24 hrs or use a SWM?) I have to decide whether to dig that hole again, remove 160 lbs of concrete, and drop $460 on a dish kit (GainMaster with multiswitch was about half that, if I recall).
     
  8. Aug 1, 2008 #488 of 529
    Dirac

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    I have taken the sidecar off of my AT9. Question now is do I need to, or should I re-run satellite setup for something other than "Slimline 5" (what it is set to now)?
     
  9. Aug 1, 2008 #489 of 529
    tacua

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    Dr.J: Will you please explain what you mean by "the mount was reversed 180 degrees,etc." Thanks in advance.
     
  10. Aug 1, 2008 #490 of 529
    litzdog911

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    It probably doesn't really matter. But if you set it "SlimLine3" you won't see channels beamed from 110 and 119º in your Guide.
     
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    Oilfan

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    Yes, you will.
     
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    texasbrit

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    No you won't, not if it is working correctly. When you set SL3 the 110/119 channels should not appear in your guide at all. However, if you have a 5lnb dish and set it to "Slimline3", you won't get ANY guide data refreshed when you are watching transponders on 103 for a long period of time (just the same problem as a slimline that can't see 119). The SL3 setting is expecting the 101 transponder carrying the guide to be diplexed on to the 103 signals and of course it won't be there.
     
  13. Aug 1, 2008 #493 of 529
    Oilfan

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    Well, I have a AT9 with no side car and I get 110/119 channels listed in the guide and always have had it listed in the guide. Guide goes 12 days last time I checked (yesterday)
     
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    DarinC

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    You don't need 119 to get guide data, it's also on 101. Leave both tuners on 103 for a day or two, THEN see what happens.
     
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    texasbrit

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    If you set it up as an SL3 then the 110/119 channels should disappear, unless there is a software bug (in which case thanks for finding it!) , because the SL3 can't see 110/119. If it's set up as a slimline 5 then 110/119 will be in the guide, even though the LNBs aren't there..
     
  16. Aug 2, 2008 #496 of 529
    Oilfan

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    My apologies. I have it set to slimline 5, not SL3 which is why I see 110/119 channels. Sorry for jumping the gun and any confusion. I do get 12+ days of guide information without having to leave both tuners on 103 though for an extended period of time.
     
  17. Aug 2, 2008 #497 of 529
    veryoldschool

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    I think there are four guide data streams just for this reason. Even and odd transponders and 101 & 119, [maybe more with 99/103 now too].
     
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    doctor j

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    the DTVAHKAKUKIT lnb mounts to a frame that bolts to the lnb arm. you can mount the frame on the arm in either of two directions. The focal point of the lnb moves abount an inch. Right way ok wrong way focal point doesn't see all three sats.

    I can give a picture of the correct mount.
    the instructions don't make it clear how in fits correctly.

    see pix:

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1350332&postcount=327

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    DarinC

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    The concern isn't having to leave it on 103, the concern is IF you leave it on 103. While tuned to channels on 103, neither 101 NOR 119 are in the stack. So you are left without guide data. If you spend an extended period with both tuners set to 103, you may not get guide data.
     
  20. Sep 3, 2008 #500 of 529
    mayo*1

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    Fo71; im very interested on adding 99 to this setup, (i have this exact setup of 4 separate dish, no 99) i really need 99 for my sunday ticket. i dont mind if i loose 119, as i get my locals from 103 now.
    were you able to do it? just curious as how did you do it.
    thanks!
     
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