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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by valleygreen22, Mar 7, 2010.

  1. dvdmth

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    That's great progress!!!
     
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    I'm sorry to throw cold water on the celebrations, but the lack of legal obstacles doesn't mean DirecTV is sitting down with Comcast any time soon and even if they do that they will agree to pay what Comcast is charging for CSN Philadelphia.
     
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    A couple of notes are in order here. CVC can still appeal. All the court did was deny a stay meaning that that MSG still has to comply with the order during the appeal process.

    Part of the order was that the agreement had to be reached based on a fair and equitable fee. Since Comcast is already selling CSN Philly to other cable companies and FiOS they wouldn't be able to gouge DTV or Dish on this.

    But...you're right....none of this requires DTV or Dish to pay that rate. Let's just sit back and see what happens.
     
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    From what I've read, a deal is in place.
     
  7. Grafixguy

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    A deal is in place for what?
     
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    read where ?
     
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    What's happening b/w MSG/Verizon FiOS is promising to the CSN Philly/D* issue. Would be interesting to be a fly on the wall in the offices of Comcrap and D* to see how they are monitoring this issue and what's next.

    I wonder how long it will take D* to act on CSN Philly once the MSG/Cablevision legal issue is finalized and MSG/MSG+ are on FiOS.
     
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    CSN Philly on DirecTV for President, but numbers are polling low for 2012 due to a tortured history. I suspect it won't run until 2016.
     
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    Were I to make a guess, I'd say an FCC action against Comcast would occur within 3 to 6 months. Maybe sooner, if the FCC has already begun its proceedings on the issue (remember that DirecTV did file a request for CSN Philly back in 2010, which is still pending action AFAIK). I don't know if there's anything DirecTV has to do at this point or it's entirely in the FCC's hands. Nevertheless, though I think an order against Comcast is eventually going to happen, I would not expect anything to get resolved in the immediate future.
     
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    Well Comcast could come back and say in order to get Sportsnet Philly, you also must carry E! HD, Style HD and G4 HD. While new HD would be welcomed, the very limited amount of transponder bandwidth available makes the deal "cost" more to DirecTV now than money alone.

    Bundled channels is why many networks stay in business in the first place. It's also part of the reason true ala-carte would never work (and if it did, a lot of networks would go under).

    I have a basic cable connection also, so I can still watch CSN Philly at least in SD. Many bars in the area have BOTH Comcast (for Phillies) and DirecTV (for Sunday Ticket). It would be convenient to be able to consolidate and have one provider.
     
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    They can't if it's not a condition for every other carrier. Again. They cannot ask for more from DTV than have from anyone else.
     
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    Good point... Not sure what they ask of other providers. My local cable co (Service Electric Cablevision) carries all 4 of those Comcast owned networks in both SD and HD. I'm not so sure Fios does though, hmm...
     
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    No... they can't. Here's a write-up of the ruling:

    http://www.broadcastingcable.com/ar...enies_Review_of_FCC_Cablevision_Decisions.php

    They didn't deny the stay. They denied review of the case. This is over. How do I know? Verizon really did waste no time - the channels got turned on at midnight last night for many customers.

    As for what this means for DirecTV and CSN Philly... alot. I'm pretty sure DirecTV has already petitioned the FCC for carriage of the channel. The FCC was probably waiting on how this whole saga played out before making any other decisions forcing carriage of RSNs. Now that this saga is over, there's nothing stopping the FCC from moving the case with DirecTV forward. Once that happens, and it will, the process will be the same as what you saw for MSG on FiOS. The FCC will give Comcast and DirecTV 30 days to come to terms on the channel. Then it'll be a matter of providing the feed. My guess is that, once the FCC issues that ruling, you would see CSN Philly within 6 weeks of that ruling.
     
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    That probably wont happen until Jan/ Feb, all of WSH is taking off for holidays, they FCC probably wont be in session until 2nd week of jan at earliest.
     
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    You're right. But at the time I posted that the only news I had seen was the lifting of the stay. The channels are on, but I can't help but think that the Dolans will take this all the way to the SCOTUS...not that I think any one of the higher courts will hear it but Dolan will make his lawyers work.
     
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    I'd heard the same thing, initially, too - that they just lifted the stay temporarily. But I think that was just conjecture making the rounds on the web, and held off on posting anything until I read the actual release. When I saw the Verizon release, that pretty much clinched it for me that this was over.

    As for CV - no, it really is over. They can try to go to the supreme court, but considering they've lost EVERY single court battle over this, and given the nature of this latest round (they argued with the FCC's determination that Verizon and AT&T were being harmed by not having the channels), the supreme court won't touch this one. This latest was really the mother of all Hail Marys anyway. I mean, after 2 courts found that the FCC had the right to abridge the loophole this way, did they really expect that a court was going to issue a ruling on something as mundane on how the FCC could determine what constitutes damage? Especially since the FCC guidelines on this, which was the subject of the first 2 court rounds, were pretty darn clear on the matter. It's really hard to argue that the FCC was fine with issuing the new rules, knowing full well what those criteria were for issuing the channel, and then saying that the FCC acted capriciously in granting the channels to Verizon and AT&T. No... they didn't. They applied the very rules that the courts all said were just fine.
     
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    this is good news
     
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    I was talking to a colleague at work today. He said he'd leave C* for D* in a minute if CSN-Philly were available. Methinks his mindset is probably VERY commonplace.

    No wonder C* is fighting.
     

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