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Continuous Problems that aren’t getting FIXED

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Rob37, Nov 30, 2018.

  1. DR2420

    DR2420 New Member

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    Wish we'd get some more information about it, it is pretty widespread. Instead of the ole, we plan to release a new update in the next 1-2 months. I'd like to get DIRECTV back in mid 2019 if the issues get resolved. If it is a software issue, it would be impacting pretty much every customer, wouldn't it?
     
  2. AngryManMLS

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    I do vaguely remember talk of the HS27 coinciding with new Android OS based client boxes. I wouldn't be shocked if the boxes in beta testing for DirecTV Now are similar to the potential ones coming for the sat based DirecTV.
     
  3. slice1900

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    Pretty sure it will be the exact same boxes, though they might have a slightly different model that includes coax. The main difference with the new clients is that they run the apps so the HS27 server would not need to - so it wouldn't need as much CPU or RAM as the HS17 and would be a little cheaper to make.
     
  4. makaiguy

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    Would that make each of the clients more expensive, by roughly the same amount, resulting in overall higher costs?
     
  5. AngryManMLS

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    I also could imagine the remote for the DirecTV sat client would have a few extra buttons for functions such as guide and DVR.
     
  6. slice1900

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    It would make them a little more expensive than they have to be, but not by the same amount - the HS17 has to support running apps for multiple clients at once while the client only has to run one.

    Since they needed to beef them up anyway to be able to run Android, and they had to run apps for the IP service since there is no Genie, there was no choice but to beef up the client. But having done that, there's no reason why they wouldn't want to save money on the Genie.
     
  7. slice1900

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    The IP version will still have a guide and channel numbers, and will use a cloud DVR so you'd have the same set of buttons.
     
  8. AngryManMLS

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    From the video showing the beta box the remote on that one is lacking a dedicated guide and DVR button that current DirecTV remotes have. There is also a lack of a button for handling going back to the previous channel as well on that remote.

     
  9. slice1900

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    I didn't look closely at the remote but I did skim through that video when it was posted. The thing has a guide, I guess you access it via the 'menu' button so it would take more than one button press to get to it. Seems dumb to me, hopefully there is still a way to access it directly if you use a universal remote.

    What does the 'DVR' button do? I assumed you meant stuff like FF, pause etc. Probably makes sense to drop useless buttons since I've got along just fine on my Tivo for many years without having a 'DVR' button :D
     
  10. AngryManMLS

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    Either that or you say "guide" with the voice button on the remote. I'm just guessing as the person doing the video didn't go into what voice commands could be done with the remote.

    It takes you right to your DVR recordings. Another name for the same button is "list" on my Logitech Harmony remote.
     
  11. Rich

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    First time I've seen that video, thanx for the link. Box looks good, remote is interesting. I don't see why folks think this will replace a sat receiver.

    Rich
     
  12. the2130

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    Will the cloud DVR still allow you to fast-forward through commercials? If not, they can keep it. I will never sign up for any service where I am forced to sit through unskippable commercials.
     
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  13. Chrismon1001

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    SyFy is having a ton of pixelation today.... this is becoming easier and easier to switch. I scheduled my install far out for Dish (22nd of Dec) in case the service gets better.
    I'm having a tough time taking a hit in picture quality, but if the service doesn't' work properly so am I really missing out on anything....

    Can anyone explain the picture quality of Dish compared to DirecTV other than the one post above? Maybe screen shots of the difference will it be a huge noticeable thing?
     
  14. slice1900

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    Of course it will today, though I wouldn't bet anything on the idea that this will always be the case. Once most people are streaming, I could easily see networks requiring at least some unskippable commercials during certain events. Or worse, the providers themselves could add unskippable commercials even while letting you skip all the commercials the recording came with.
     
  15. DR2420

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    I've had DIRECTV, DISH and Spectrum and I can say without a doubt, DISH has the worst picture of the three. I'm not overly picky or anything like that, but their picture was highly compressed and it just kind of had a dull look to it. It just didn't have the vividness or clarity that the DIRECTV picture has, when working properly. I noticed a lot more background artifacts that I didn't like. The DISH receivers work really good, they release updates and stay on top of issues a lot better than DIRECTV, in my opinion. There's no doubt the Hopper 3 DVR is the better DVR, it's just the picture that I have a problem with and the fact they tend to have more contract disputes with broadcasters. If you search around the internet, you will see others who have complained about the DISH picture quality compared to some other providers, such as DIRECTV. It may have just been an issue DISH was having in my area, as a lot of people say it is good enough for them. There's zero doubt in my mind though that the picture is softer and not as crisp/detailed.

    There are a lot of people that go to DISH and absolutely love it. You may not notice much of a difference and be completely happy with it. Definitely not trying to talk you out of it. I've just had both services and both were recent. Just talking from my own personal experience.
     
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  16. Steady Teddy

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    How does Spectrum PQ compare to D*?
     
  17. slice1900

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    Cable varies from region to region in most cases - different systems have different limitations on bandwidth and have different PQ. That's getting to be less true over time as they get them upgraded for DOCSIS 3.1, which requires upgrading a lot of the older setups.

    While you'd think those upgrades would help, where Comcast has done so they have converted all HD channels to 720p 3 Mbps CBR. Terrible PQ.

    So if you want to know what Spectrum's PQ is like, you should go to a friend or neighbor where you live who has Spectrum to find out. Because someone in the next town over might have much better or much worse PQ than you would get if you signed up where you lived.
     
  18. Barry in Conyers

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    Spectrum is a collection of local systems, not all of which are equal and the HD PQ varies accordingly. Some local systems are not so good, but most that I have seen in the last year or so are about equal to DirecTV HD PQ. I recently stayed at a resort on Maui where the HD PQ was considerably better than what I get from DirecTV at home; even my wife noticed.
     
  19. the2130

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    It's possible they will try something like that, but there are already a number of streaming services that are either ad-free or offer an ad-free option for an extra fee. I currently have the ad-free versions of CBS All-Acess and Hulu. I can't imagine that I would ever sign up for a service that forced me to sit through unskippable commercials.
     
  20. slice1900

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    I just saw something yesterday that said AT&T and someone else (Netflix or Amazon, I believe) was going to experiment with putting up ads when you press pause.

    If they make you pay more to avoid stuff like that, it still makes streaming more expensive. And they could easily decide "look at how many people were willing to pay $5/month extra to avoid ads, we can probably make more money by making that no-add fee $10".

    Look at how many ads there are on TV now - would anyone 50 years ago have thought we would have nearly 20 minutes of ads per hour of TV? They will always overdo it, because too many people accept stuff like that.
     

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