Continuous Recording

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by inazsully, Jul 6, 2009.

  1. SayWhat?

    SayWhat? Know Nothing

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    I've seen that mentioned several times now. Is that something in the new boxes? My 508 updates the guide silently, behind the scenes. It never interrupts viewing the way some of you have mentioned and I leave it on all the time. The only time I've ever seen it is when I turn the box on after an extended power outage.

    I do have the inactivity timer set for about 1AM, but I'm usually awake to override that several nights a week.
     
  2. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    You probably are just mentally confusing some settings.

    The "inactivity timer" is what you set for XX unattended hours before going into standby. You can disable this feature.

    The "nightly update" is what you set for a specific time (like 1am) when the receiver will update the EPG data and perform other file-system maintenance or take a firmware update if available.

    Some EPG data does update in the background during the day... but the full 9-day EPG only comes in during the nightly update. IF you don't allow the receiver to update for say 3 days, you'll find you no longer have 9 days of EPG anymore... but probably something like 5 days.

    I have skipped a nightly update now and then if I was staying up late and watching TV... but have never gone more than 2 days without letting it have an update.


    The "interruption" I mentioned... comes when you are watching the receiver when the 1am time comes. At 1am, if you are watching the receiver, it will show a Popup telling you it is about to update and go into standby, and lets you choose to skip the update for now if you want.
    If you don't set any timers to record anything and you don't look to see what's coming on a couple of days in the future... then you might not notice EPG problems caused by not letting it update nightly.
     
  3. SayWhat?

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    That may be on the newer boxes, but I don't have an update timer on the 508 and as of right now, I have 7 days on the guide.
     
  4. ZBoomer

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    I don't want to debate the pro/cons of doing a break-in on a Plasma; I did it on my Pioneer 60" Kuro, because I figured what the hell, why not? I want this TV to last for years, what's a couple days? I didn't run it continuously, but just overnight when I wasn't watching TV.

    I've never seen a hint of burn-in or image retention, but I'm not sure if that's due to the break-in, or just the fact it's an awesome TV. I was paranoid at first, but now I treat it like any TV, it just never retains images; that "con" of Plasma's is way overblown on today's TV's.

    Anyway, why bother trying to get a Dish receiver to run continuously? Download the free break-in DVD here, http://www.eaprogramming.com/

    It runs for 24 hours straight...
     
  5. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    You said you have something set to update at 1am in your earlier post. That would be the nightly update.

    Also, FYI, you should have a 9-day EPG... so the fact that you only have 7 right now is indicative of it missing some data from not updating the last couple of days probably.
     
  6. PghGuy

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    But do they say it has to be continuous recording? I would be surprised if they did.

    Just curious if you ever owned a plasma tv before? I have 3 right now (largest being a 60" Pioneer) and have never done this or had any issues resulting from not breaking them in from continous recording. Maybe this means I am just lucky but I agree with the other poster that this was more of an issue when they first came out and I don't believe you really have to worry about it anymore. I would suggest making sure your new plasma is calibrated properly over worrying about the continous recording (but thats just my opinion).

    I don't doubt you are finding "expert reviews" that say you should do this, but here is a simple question...does your manufacturer suggest/require it, are you voiding your warranty by not doing it? I don't ever recall a manufacturer saying it was necessary to have 100hrs of continuous recording but I could be wrong. For me, the manufacturer is the expert I listen to about this sort of thing, after all if I don't trust them then why did I buy their brand in the first place?

    Either way you wont do any harm so do what makes you feel better and enjoy your new purchase :)
     
  7. inazsully

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    Yes, I have owned several plasmas and have installed many more. I always rely on the many experts at avsforum.com. especially from large retailer Cleveland Plasma. At this moment you can go avs and log onto the display section and then Panasonic G series and find literally dozens of comments and suggestions on the best way to break in said screen. Some prefer a break-in disc and some prefer a slide show on a memory stick, and some prefer using a HD channel feed left on zoom. Constant operation is not necessary, just follow the procedure during the first 100 hours of use. I haven't seen the owners manual for the G series but past Panny's have suggested a break-in period. The reason I asked about the 722 is that I install and calibrate dozens of plasma's and LCD's and some folks have this DVR. The Pioneer 6070 plasma is a serious investment (Pioneers have always been exceptionally resistant to burn-in). I'm glad you are not having any burn-in or image retention problems. Most plasma's, including Pioneer have some kind setting or recommendation for removing image retention. They must have had some concerns.
     
  8. PghGuy

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    I don't disagree with anything you say, just curious if you agree that constant operation is not necessary, then why are you going through the effort of doing it (not meant as a dig, just curious)? I look at it similar to breaking in a car, do I need to go out and drive all the break-in miles at once or can I do it over time with my normal driving schedule, I don't see any hard benefit from doing it either way over the other, just seems like it is less effort to accomplish the same using your normal driving and/or viewing habbits.
     
  9. inazsully

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    The only advantage to running the set for 100 straight hours is to get the 100 hours over with as soon as possible. If you run it while you are in bed and while you are at work then the process is over in about 5 days and most of those hours are not taking away from your viewing time. You don't have to run it on any particular channel, just keep it on some kind of full screen mode and the more movement the better. Try and stay away from static images if possible. By the way. Many expert reviewers regard the Pioneer 6070 as the finest PQ they have EVER seen on any kind of display. The G series from Panasonic has incorporated much of this Pioneer technology.
     
  10. scoobyxj

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    The only way I can think of to get a 722 to not shut down for 100 hours is to hit the record button and choose manually stop from the options list. Even then I couldn't say if it would want to shut down the video output after 4 hours, or not. As for breaking in the TV what about using the composite connection from a DVD player. It should display full screen video without any side bars if you used a 4.3 formatted disk.
     
  11. harsh

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    If you're looking for some good burn-in material, contemplate tuning to any unused analog TV frequency and setting the display to stretch. Ant races are pretty good for stirring pixels.
     

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