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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by thomamon, Nov 8, 2009.
Actually, there is no such restriction - any non-encrypted signal can be process by the card.
Since you don't have much access to DirecTV programing, you may not be aware that more and more programing has HDCP. We've seen an increase in the use of it with DirecTV2PC and systems that aren't HDCP compliant.
From Blackmagic's website:
Copy Protection For legal reasons, capture devices from Blackmagic Design are designed not to capture, convert or transmit video or audio from copy-protected sources, e.g. video devices using HDCP.
What a shame, I'm still waiting for them to find a way to crack the HDCP when using HDMI to copy a file.
As with DirecTV2PC, you need to have an analog connection in the loop, as the hauppauge does.
And the Intense has it too [component] - see Blackmagic website for details.
I know you mean 'DRM flags', but some of readers couldn't be aware, because programming cannot 'has HDCP' per se.
I think this may just be semantics, since when I need to see if a monitor or video card will work, I need to know it supports HDCP, but "yes" there is copyright protection on shows you wouldn't think should. Two recordings of the same show, one from early '07 and the other '08, will have the first play without "protection" errors and the second won't.
Blackmagic may now be a viable option to hauppauge's product.
As is usual when talking about HD video, folks 'forget' the digital audio.
The analog capabilities of the Blackmagic box(s) (component HD. YCrCb), preclude using digital audio (Dolby), and it has only analog audio inputs. ONLY the Hauppauge HD-PVR allows digital Dolby 2.0/5.1 (as well as analog stereo L/R if you wanted to use it) through Toslink Input/Outputs.
In fact, upon closely reading the spec sheets on the Blackmagic, it appears that it support only stereo 2-channel audio on the HDMI input, OR the 'analog' input.
I've been putting together home theater systems with the HD-PVR for close to two years now, being fed by DirecTV systems (among others), coupled with multi-terabyte RAID storage systems. Unlike many, with eSATA drives hooked to various HR-series boxes, I have yet to have ANY of those systems 'lose' a single recorded program.
Since we're talking about PC rig, there are a lot of sound cards include 7.1
The other thing to remember about the Black Magic - although cheaper for sure - is that it is not designed to do what the OP wanted (although it can). The Hauppauge comes out of the box with everything that is needed to capture HD content and burn it to an AVCHD disc or Blu-ray disc in HD with digital audio.
I have had a great deal of success getting an incredible amount of content (upwards of an hour and a half or more) onto a single layer DVD in HD, especially with 720p content. The quality is nearly indistinguishable from the original source when played back and viewed from normal viewing distances. Throw a DL disc into the mix and you're golden. I've only had to use blu-ray discs for putting full length feature movies (2 hours or more) recorded and top quality and even then I've been able to put two and sometimes three movies on a single BD-25.
OK, you pretty must just sold me on the Hauppauge
You do all of this with the software that comes with it? Just want to be sure.
I'm on a Mac so in my case no - but it does comes with the Arcsoft Total Media Extreme package for the PC that I know lets you burn and convert recordings. Sorry I can't be of more help on this part of it.
I have a MAC also, what do you use on there?
Do this still sell this item? It seem as if nobody has it anymore? My wife tried to locate it for me for Christmas, but NewEgg lists it as discontinued.
The big reason is HDCP.
This device can only function by using the "analog hole" [exception]. You can't copy a digital recording, so there must be one analog link in the chain.
Ah ha,,,Has anyone here used these and if so the opinion is ??????
Again, it looks as if the item has been discontinued
Try eBay and other places.
Theres some on Ebay