I just cut down my programming pack to the hd sliver pack with locals and cut my bill by about 30.00 a month. I am going to try BlockBuster dvds by mail and see if it is any better than Netflix was. It is still 17.99 for 3 dvds at a time so I can see the latest and greatest dvds before they come to the premium channels. As far as the dish programming. I only watch what is on the top 120 and the networks and some of the hd channels anyway. I really haven't got into any of the Hbo or showtime shows since they cancelled 6 feet under and Dead like me. OF course I am now paying about 11.96 a month in dvr fees, but I still save money and get to keep my hd channels and hd locals.