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D has turned into Comcast, it's ran by incompetent idiots..

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by saleen351, May 23, 2013.

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  1. peds48

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    You forgot to capitalize Uncle….just saying if we are going to pick the nits :smoking:
     
  2. tonyd79

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    Nope. Only capitalize when it is part of a name. Your uncle is not a name but a relationship. If the sentence were "Help Uncle jack off a horse," it would be capitalized because you are using Uncle like a name.
     
  3. longrider

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    Back to the subject of DirecTV vs Dish in businesses, DirecTVs dominance might be due to the fact they dont charge a per receiver fee and Dish does. I have had DirecTV at work for years and was approached by a Dish salesperson recently. While his programming package was able to save me some money the savings were wiped out with the receiver fees and this was with only 4 receivers. Had it been a bar with 10 - 20 receivers DirecTV would have been way cheaper.
     
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    I can assure you that Joe insures his property, to ensure that he will be covered.

    How this relates to Directv, I have no idea. :shrug:
     
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  5. AMike

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    It will definitely be a game-changer for sure. If there is a switch in providers, I'm sure there will be money to be made for not only the subscriptions which is based on capacity of the restaurant, but also installation and receiver fees.
     
  6. peds48

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    seems like there a few folks who like to help uncle jack off a horse….. !rolling
     
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  7. slice1900

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    It will be different depending on one's cable system. Mine couldn't compete, but mine is one of the smaller ones, with less than two million subscribers across the country. They don't offer any out of region RSNs and don't offer premium packages like MLBEI. I don't know that they'd even offer NFLST if it were available to them. Like most (all?) of them, they charge a lot for a basic HD receiver, rental only with no option to buy. The programming has to cost less to make up that difference to induce switching. Even then, it would really piss me off to be paying $10/month/receiver forever to rent something that costs less than $100 to make, because of illegal collusion in the cable industry making it impossible for end users to purchase a simple receiver that accepts a cable card. My cable company couldn't compete. But I'm sure it would be different elsewhere.

    I think Directv really needs to go all in to keep their exclusivity on Sunday Ticket. Losing that will cost them a ton of highly profitable commercial customers who will have options they don't have today. They'll also lose who knows how many residential customers who are only with them for that one reason. Directv badly needs a major exclusive like NFLST if they want to give customers a reason to stick with them in the face of all those sweet offers to switch everyone has dangled in front of them all the time. You can argue all you want about HD quality or DVR capabilities or whatever, but for most people Directv, Dish and their cable company are equal enough it'll come down to price.

    I think Directv is already shooting themselves in the foot with commercial customers by giving away NFLST to so many residential customers. The more residential customers who have it, the fewer potential customers bars and restaurants carrying NFLST have. At the prices they charge, you need a good amount of extra business - people who are there specifically to watch games that aren't available on local broadcast networks. It is those extra people on the margin who came to watch games that aren't available on broadcast TV that must bring you enough extra profit to pay for NFLST. The large price increases dumped on commercial customers every year are bad enough, combine that with doing things that reduce the potential customer base, and more and more commercial customers will drop NFLST. Once they do, Directv loses the ironclad grip they had on them, and they can begin shopping around for deals with cable or Dish.

    Directv probably feels that signing up all those new residential customers is worth it, but most of those who really want NFLST are willing to pay for it. Those who are happy to have it because it is free but won't pay $300/year for it are probably the type of customer who will leave after their 24 months are up and their cable company makes them a super-cheap "please come back" offer. I wonder if a customer who gets the new customer deal and leaves after 24 months even ends up making Directv any money at all? These customers have already demonstrated they aren't faithful to their provider - they left whoever they had before to switch to Directv because of their nice offer, so why shouldn't they switch again after their contract with Directv is up? Meanwhile, they risk costing themselves some highly profitable commercial customers who, if they drop NFLST and leave Directv because they now have that option they never did before, will be very difficult if not impossible to win back.
     
  8. Laxguy

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    How funny is it that......the ones who make the most..... even with correct syntax, it's seldom true.
     
  9. JoeTheDragon

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    even with a cable card they bill you $1.99 to rent it or even make then free with an $8-$10 outlet fee.
     
  10. slice1900

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    My cable company charges me $1.99 per cable card, no outlet fee. So owning receivers that I could use a cable card in would save a ton of money over renting receivers. I have 23 receivers on my account, if I switched to cable owning vs. renting would make a difference of about $200/month!

    But every cable system is different. Those that charge "outlet fees" really screw cable card users. Kind of like how Directv charges a "mirror fee" for receivers that residential customers own. They all pay providers like ESPN and HBO per household, not per TV, so this is just a pure profit money grab for them.

    I guess you could look at it as the households with a lot of TVs subsidizing those with a few, or perhaps are subsidizing the great deals that new customers get, because maybe they couldn't offer the packages at the prices they do if there was a way for people with a lot of TVs to pay the same as those with one.
     
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    I don't like the taste of Ensure...
     
  12. peds48

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    I rest my case. moving on… :backtotop
     
  13. Diana C

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    That whooshing sound is the point, going right over your head.
     
  14. Diana C

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    Nobody is perfect. The point is not that mistakes are made, it is that one should not pretend that grammar is meaningless or pointless. We communicate with language, and at least attempting to use proper grammar improves the clarity of communication. I try not to point out grammatical errors by others, but I do take exception to the sentiment that grammar and punctuation are unimportant.
     
  15. peds48

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    You do have a point, where it matters. I just don't think that one has to make sure that every sentence must be capitalize after a period and forming perfectly good paragraphs and whatever good grammar implies. This is a technical forums where there is a lot of jargon that my spellchecker has no clue about…lol. As long as the message is conveyed, the job is done, after all this is what this forums is for. Last time I checked, good grammar was not part of this forum's policies.

    Now, if you were applying for a corporate position, I would expect that your resume be free of any grammar errors and be professionally written. that is where your point is valid.
     
  16. pdxBeav

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    But in this case grammar is 100% unimportant. We all knew what the title of the post implied. To get on a high horse about this is telling. The "ran" vs. "run" debate in this kind of forum is silly at best.
     
  17. Diana C

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    I agree that "ran" vs. "run" is unimportant, I never said otherwise. I merely offered a couple of (hopefully amusing) examples where applying the rules of English grammar can drastically alter the meaning of two simple sentences.

    Since my only disagreement is with the sentiment that grammar is "100% unimportant," and since this is merely my personal opinion, I will not comment on this issue further.

    My "on topic" comment remains that, on the whole, DirecTV is not run by incompetents. That said, it is unfortunate that the TS had a bad experience. While many DirecTV personnel visit this site, it is not a sure conduit to the company by any means. I would hope that the TS would also take the time to write or call the company's commercial account group to alert them to the issue directly.
     
  18. Rich

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    I think we're judged by others on how well we communicate. The information we disseminate is easier to understand if something resembling good grammar, spelling, etc. is used. The same holds true when we ask for help. The great majority of the members attempt to make their posts readable. Simply put, you are what you write, at least in these forums.

    Rich
     
  19. Jon J

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    I hesitated. Wish I had not. ;)
     
  20. Laxguy

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    Few mention grammar unless the person making the error(s) is over the top in some other aspect. Dunno who you think is on a high horse, but grammar and spelling do count.
    There's no debate on "ran" vs. "run". The title is flat out wrong, but I wouldn't have commented unless there was already controversy.
     
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