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D* Now dependent on IP address when moving locations?

Discussion in 'Internet Streaming Services' started by Rich, Feb 23, 2018.

  1. Rich

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    I got this definition for GeoIP: A form of geolocation, GeoIP refers to the method of locating a computer terminal's geographic location by identifying that terminal's IP address. ThoughGeoIP can pinpoint a terminal's location to a city, it requires the use of a GeoIPdatabase as well as an understanding of APIs to implement correctly.
    Naturally, I had no idea this existed. Thanx.

    The guy I talked to said his friend took a box to a different location and D* Now did not work there. I don't know which streaming box he was using. I was told a warning about IP addresses was shown on the screen and D* Now didn't work. His words, not mine. D*N isn't an RSN, not a local. Why did that happen? If it happened at all. I'm not a big fan of the guy that told me the story. To muddle up things, he told me the same thing happened to his friend using PS Vue in a different location. I can see that happening but an app on a box? That's what I don't see. I'm beginning to think this is just another steaming pile of BS from this guy.

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  2. mjwagner

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    Yes, with the restrictions that go along with using PSVue on a mobile device. What you can’t do is log on to the PSVue app on a streaming device outside of your home location.
     
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    Don’t know about the specific details he described but essentially he is correct.
     
  4. Rich

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    Suppose the app is on an FTV. I take that box on vacation and can't use the PSV app? No way to verify it's me and I'm here at the beach? That GeoIP thing seemed to say verification would work.

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    Assuming you have the PSV app on your Shield. What happens if you take the Shield to your daughter's house? What can you use and what can't you use?

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    I'm thinking the D*N app wouldn't work because the app can do live TV? Wouldn't verification work?

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  7. trh

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    Thank you for clarifying that. I have been looking for that and it is 'sort of' on their web site, but they are not very clear about it.

    I'm wondering because we have Netflix with 4 simultaneous streaming devices allowed. And it is based on country, not home location (they used to call it a 'family and friend' set-up). Our daughter who lives out of state has been using our account for almost 2 years. No problems.

    We'd thought about doing the same with PS Vue, but there will be some differences.
     
  8. mjwagner

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    You would not be able to log into your PSVue account using the FTV at that location.
     
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    NetFlix is totally different. They don’t carry live feeds of network channels so they don’t need to worry about the geo restrictions.
     
  10. Rich

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    Wow. I get them blocking the RSNs. Not sure why locals get blocked. But I could live with them being blocked. What else is Sony worried about? Even D* DVRs can be taken on vacation and the content on the HDD can be played. I wonder if all the CRSs do what Sony does.

    Both the guy I spoke to and the guy he spoke to were of the opinion that D* was in some way responsible for what happened. The only thing I can remember hearing about the PSV app is that it did the same thing, blocked viewing and put up the message on the screen. I was never told what exactly those messages said. Would be interesting if both apps put up the same message.

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    What device was your guy using and what channels was he trying to watch that were blocked? That makes a difference with the PS Vue.
     
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    All I got from the conversation was his friend took D*Now to a different location and it was blocked by D* because the IP address of the app at that location wasn't the same IP address at his home. Both guys apparently blamed D* for the app not working. I have no idea what device was used. Gotta remember, all I have is a story told to one person who then told me the story. I have no idea if what I was told was correct. I asked him questions that he couldn't answer, then I gave up. What I got from the conversation was the D* Now app would not work...period. He didn't say a device was blocked, he said the app was blocked. Not a channel the whole app. And he said his friend used the PS Vue in some way and the same thing happened. He didn't go into detail about what happened with PS Vue. Now, after listening to Mark I kinda think the PSV app would be blocked.

    Appears he was kinda right. I had no idea GeoIP existed. What he told me about D* directly causing the blockage was wrong, I think. I doubt D* had a hand in this. Not their fault.

    Sorry I can't make this clearer.

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  13. trh

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    Not blocked if you're watching via a mobile device (except local channels).
     
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    When you use a phone or tablet you can go from location to location and nothing is blocked but locals? Is that what you're saying? What about the RSNs? I was thinking the problem occured when a streaming box that had the D* app on it was moved from one location to another, never considered he might have been using a phone.

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    Go back and read what mjwagner posted and the FAQ from PS Vue I posted (post #18). Right now, we were addressing PS Vue, not DIRECTV Now. But the PS Vue on mobile devices, makes a destinction between on home network, out of home but still in the same city and out of home and out of your home city.
     
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    So, you'd still get the locals and RSNs on a phone. Got it. Of course I read Mark's post, took a while for it to sink in.

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    if you're in the same city.
     
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    I have used DirecTV Now at home on my Apple TVs, on my iPad and phone via cellular, on my Apple TV in my office, and at my mom's house when I have visited and never had any issues and they all have different IPs. That said there shouldn't be any issues with RSN or local channels because they are located in the the SF Bay Area.
     
  19. pennhunter

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    When I signed up for Directv Now at an at&t store I specifically asked the rep if it would work at two different locations. He said yes but you are limited to two streams. I purchased and Apple TV for my self and one for my son. I live in Ohio and my son is at school in Pennsylvania. It works at both locations but he does not get local channels. Even on Directv he wouldn't get local channels at his location. It works great at both locations but he wasn't happy that he couldn't get the Super Bowl.
     
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    A simple $15 OTA antenna would probably fix that.
     

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