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D put the dam Bucs game on Game mix

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by saleen351, Sep 10, 2012.

  1. renbutler

    renbutler Godfather

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    In 2011, Jacksonville didn't have a single blackout. They also beat seven other teams in terms of average attendance.
     
  2. iceturkee

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    they didn't last year either!
     
  3. iceturkee

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    daytona...
    i don't believe that is true. i seem to recall their home games were blacked out.
     
  4. renbutler

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    That was the "fancostindex" study: http://fancostindex.com/. You are incorrectly citing AVERAGE prices as the CHEAPEST prices.

    The Bucs have one of the lowest average prices for non-premium tickets at $69.72. That includes tickets for $30 and $45.

    I am a season-ticket holder for an NFL team. We pay only the face value of the tickets. We park for free and walk a mile, and we eat before and after the game. So there are ways around the exorbitant prices charged at NFL games.
     
  5. renbutler

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    It is true. The Jags didn't have a single blackout in 2011 OR 2010.

    They had seven blackouts in 2009, three in 2007, six in 2004, six in 2003, one in 2002, and three in 2001.
     
  6. Hoosier205

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    Only because they continue to tarp off more and more seats.
     
  7. trainman

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    Sherman...
    They can, but they basically have three choices in order to comply with NFL rules...

    1. Not put blacked-out games on the Game Mix (what they do currently).
    2. Black out the Game Mix channel in areas that are blacked out of games.
    3. Add a second Game Mix channel.

    #3 creates some technical and bandwidth issues. #2 would probably generate complaints from Sunday Ticket subscribers in areas where the channel is blacked out, given that Game Mix is a specifically advertised feature.

    I remember that, for much of the '80s, tickets to Buccaneers games were $10 (end zones), $20 (sidelines outside the 20-yard lines) and $30 (sidelines inside the 20-yard lines). Although back then, they played in a 74,000-seat stadium, and rarely sold out -- mainly only when they played the Bears and the Packers, thanks to fans of those teams taking a little Florida vacation (easier to get seats in Tampa than in Chicago or Green Bay!).

    It actually went up to $10 this season (and the Dodgers went down from $15 to $10). If nothing else, it's easier on the lot attendants, who don't have to use a ton of $1 bills to make change.
     
  8. renbutler

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    They tarped only one time, before the 2005 season. Even with the tarps, their official capacity is still greater than 11 other teams'.

    The seven teams with lower average attendance in 2011 (number of regular-season blackouts):

    Chicago
    Arizona
    Miami
    Oakland
    Tampa Bay (5)
    St. Louis
    Cincinnati (6)

    San Diego (2) and Buffalo (3) also had blackouts.
     
  9. tonyd79

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    They also covered up seats.
     
  10. tonyd79

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    Gee, three of the eight lowest attended teams are in Florida. You are proving my point.

    Chicago is funny. They could make that stadium 150% the size it is and still sell it out. Numbers lie.
     
  11. renbutler

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    Already discussed in the post immediately preceding yours.
     
  12. renbutler

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    I'm not sure why you're so snarky. I've shared only facts, by which people can draw their own conclusions.

    But here's one opinion: Jacksonville doesn't have the attendance problems that many claim they have. The Dolphins and Buccaneers clearly do have attendance problems, although the Dolphins are far more willing to buy up unsold seats to avoid blackouts.
     
  13. dcowboy7

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    Wrong....the bucs sold out 3 games last year.
     
  14. maartena

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    Yeah that makes sense. Haven't been to a game yet this year....
     
  15. tonyd79

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    Not being snarky other than the NFL screwed up in giving Jacksonville a team which then led to the Browns moving to Baltimore and the NFL forcing another expansion to Cleveland. All due to the "Sun God" Paul Tagliabue, the worst NFL commissioner ever, who really was trying to protect his friend, Jack Kent Cooke, who was trying to ensure himself the Baltimore market.

    One or two or even three years does not no attendance problems make. Maybe because the previous owner was shopping the team around.
     
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    From what I recall reading about it when it was first announced it was changed in such a way that no one would use it. It boiled down to something like the following.

    1) You had to pick your lower threshold at the start of the year.

    2) It was for all your home games.

    3) You had to give a larger percentage of the money to the visiting team.

    Overall I find the black-out policy rather silly. As others have pointed out the cost is pretty high when you start considering tickets/food/parking etc. The time commitment can also be pretty high as the local market is 75 miles by default which could easily be 2 hours each way on top of game time which means ~8 hours of your day. I really doubt that it has much effect on the amount of seats sold the vast majority of the time and I think in the long run just hurts the teams local market. People who can't/won't actually go to the game aren't able to follow the team and can loose interest in team.
     
  17. Shades228

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    This is false they had blackouts last year.
     
  18. Hoosier205

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    Being a Colts fan...I always enjoy laughing at Jacksonville. :) Time for that team to pack up their tarps and move west!
     
  19. renbutler

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    No, they didn't, and I've already linked to the proof.

    Here's some more proof, if you like.
     
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