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D* Sub Channels June??

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by dod1450, Mar 21, 2011.

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  1. dod1450

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    I saw this from a local HDTV email list and wondering anyone else had heard of this. That Salinas California 8.2 maybe on D* in June.


    This is a video;
    It will be on Dish and cable too, Direct TV in June.
    http://www.ksbw.com/video/27241730/detail.html
     
  2. Jon Ellis

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    8.2 will be the ABC affiliate starting next month, so that's why they're carrying it. They generally do carry subchannels if they are a big-four affiliate.
     
  3. dod1450

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    So will the guide display as 8 or 8.2 for this new network?
     
  4. Jon Ellis

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    They usually put it on a different whole-number channel, sometimes the RF digital channel number (if it's different than the PSIP channel). I think DirecTV is the only one that puts some locals on x.x channels, and you can only receive those on HD receivers...but I may be wrong.
     
  5. wilsonc

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    D* currently doesn't put any subchannel from a local affliate in the satellite stream. Receivers using OTA tuners can get them from an OTA antenna, but not in the satellite stream.
     
  6. richard1428

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    9-2.KUEN2

    no OTA
     
  7. HoTat2

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    Same pattern here in L.A.;

    DirecTV carries both the local PBS affiliate KLCS as channel "58" in the guide, and one of its secondary OTA sub-channels as "58-2."

    Don't know if the upcoming Salinas California channel will display as "8-2" in the guide but it likely will I'd wager.
     
  8. jdspencer

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    My area has three sub-channels carried by DirecTV. They all have separate channel numbers. Channel 10 is MyNetwork which is 40-2 OTA, Channel 13 is The CW (12-2 OTA) and channel 20 is our NBC affiliate on 34-2 OTA. We don't have any of the secondary type sub channels.
     
  9. adkinsjm

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    It depends on the market on what subchannels are carried. For smaller markets, subchannels could be a major network, CW or MyNetwork TV.
     
  10. HoTat2

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    I'm thinking it may be what the sub-channels are actually carrying might be the key. For instance if it is a completely separate network than what is carried on the main "x(x)-1" OTA sub-channel then DirecTV will give it a solely numerical number in the guide different from its pre-dash OTA number.

    But if the secondary sub-channels carry minor programming mainly related to the local station originated material it will likely be assigned a dash number in the guide with the same pre-dash number as the main.
     
  11. wilbur_the_goose

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    Jon,
    Sorry - D* does not normally carry subchannels of the big 4.
     
  12. dirtyblueshirt

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    I think what Jon means, is that in markets where one of the big 4 are broadcast ON a subchannel, not subchannels OF the big 4 stations
     
  13. dishrich

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    So when you say "normally" did you mean they NEVER do, or ONLY in the examples already stated? :confused:

    The point is, D* very much already DOES do this in some (read: smaller) DMA's, as that is the ONLY (legal) way those DMA's can get some primary, network prog locally. (ie: NOT from DNS service thru DBS)

    AND in those same markets, normally if a station offers a missing network affiliate for that said DMA on a sub, (in the OP's case, there has NOT been a "local" OTA ABC affiliate for this DMA for over a decade now) that same affiliate WILL invoke "network non-duplication rules" over ANY cable OR DBS companies from importing distant signals of that same network affiliate.

    In the case of D*, D* IS now being required to stop offering KGO-SanFran in the Monterey/Salinas DMA as they currently do, & to offer 8.2 in it's place - as that is the ONLY ABC affiliate they can legally offer in this DMA w/out a waiver from KSBW. (which AIN'T gonna happen!) DISH & all local cable co such as Comcast are having to do the VERY same thing in this DMA.
    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=187856

    As adkins & HoTat already explained, THAT is the very reason why DirecTV (& DISH, too) DO carry subchannels that are of network prog.
     
  14. djzack67

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