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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Sixto, Jul 6, 2007.
Really, please explain how you know this for us amatures.
chopperjc help us here.
tell us what you know,that we don't know
do you know something ?
I know nothing. I am the amature.
Originally Posted by Ken_F
Since DirecTV evidently lit up some CONUS transponders on DirecTV-10....
I was asking Ken_F.
I think he meant that they are testing the CONUS beams from the test location (which we don't see on our receivers) and just wanted to know what standard they are using for them.
You don't think they will use 495 and keep 499 as a BBC test?
My Guide still shows the change from BBC test channel to the TBA Sat. Aug 25 3AM PDT . However that TBA continues for days out into the future so does not mean something will immediately appear Aug 25. Maybe just update back to BBC Test channel like yours.
With as many runs Texas scored last night they coulda ran to the sat and opened it up.
If they make 499 the 103b test channel then your b band converters would have to be working so there would be no need for a channel just for bbc. I think that is a temp thing since there was nothing there transmitting a ka-lo signal to test with. Also I think that once you get a swm module you don't need the bbc at all.
A "true" BBC test (on whatever channel, 499 or 495 or whatever), will give you an actual page that says "Your B-Band Converter is connected" or something, rather than a Searching for Satellite Signal error. You get an error now if the BBC works because there IS no Ka-low (the "B-Band") signal at all. If the BBC isn't working or not connected, the Ka-high signal passes through unblocked - THAT signal is the static splash page that says your BBC is not connected. Once they "turn on" a true test page using a Ka-low band transmission from D10, the test will be a lot more comprehensible to people.
I posted above about how I would like a true test HD signal with HD video on 499 to test everything including the MPEG-4 decoding. Is D10's present "testing slot" close enough to 103 W to be able to hit our dishes with a test signal if they wanted to do it? It would seem to me that while actual HD channels can't begin until they follow the FCC rules ( in the STA, Sept 1 etc.), "Testing" at 102.6 could legally include a 499 channel test of some kind on customer's receivers . Or what am I missing ( as I often do!)
Sure, a CONUS beam would have no trouble. The difference between 102.6 and 102.775 is 0.175, or about 80 miles, at a distance of 22,236 miles (plus or minus). The azimuth difference between those two is tiny. No problem configuring the beam width or aiming. Spot beams are the ones that are hard to fine tune and have to be re-aimed when sats move slots much. Since most of D10 will be CONUS (at least at first anyway - who knows later), I wouldn't think it would be much trouble from a technical perspective.
I haven't read the FCC filings or the CFRs (Code of Federal Regulations) governing the allowable scope of "test" activities, however.
For those tests at STA position customer's intervention doesn't required.
I have been reading this thread since it was created, and daily since. I think it is time to summarize as to where we are at today.
It might be a good idea to keep this summary current.
1. July 6: D10 launched
2. July 7: D10 communicating with Mission Control.
3. July 7 to ~August 16: D10 moved into test position 102.6x
4. August 16: FCC Filing stating “DIRECTV 10 is now undergoing in-orbit testing at the 102.6° W.L. orbital location”, confirming testing is underway. FCC Filing also states “DIRECTV is ahead of this schedule and will be ready to commence moving DIRECTV 10 to 102.775° W.L. on or about September 1.”.
5. August 19: LyngSat, D10 arrival announcement
6. August 20: D* places B-Band Converter test channels and video instructions on CH- 77, 92, and 499 (499 still active). Having us users check that we have the proper equipment and converters to receive the new HD content from D10.
Corrections and comments welcome….
Channels 77 and 92 are gone, as is the pushed video from my playlist.
Can still be found at ch, 510.
trgonz: Thank you for the constructive post. I think it would be great if the mods would "sticky" the update to a locked thread so that those of us who want a quick update can avoid the chat-room antics on this current thread. And likewise, those who enjoy the banter can continue...
The Lyngsat "arrival" notice is inaccurate. D10 is in its testing location, not at 102.8.
Lyngsat is just a repository of info, no more or less accurate than here really. Don't use that info as definitive.