DATA COLLECTION: OTA Guide Data Issues

Discussion in 'Other HD Receiver Support Forum (811, 921, 942)' started by Mark Lamutt, Apr 24, 2005.

  1. Jeff McClellan

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    there is help coming. I know its hard to be patient, but in the end hopefully you will all see why the wait was worth it.
     
  2. treiher

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    Assuming Dish is still reviewing this, I have the following in Austin, TX . . . .
    (I do subscribe to locals)

    007-01 (KTBC, FOX) - RF 56 - "Digital Service"
    024-01 (KVUE, ABC) - RF 33 - Guide Info. Good
    036-01 (KXAN, NBC) - RF 21 - Guide Info. Good
    042-01 (KEYE, CBS) - RF 43 - Guide Info. Good

    Looks like the only problem is KTBC. Anyone else in Austin getting guide info. for KTBC?

    updated -- I contacted Dish Tech support about this and they told me that this is not a problem with the 942 or Dish, and that it is my local FOX affiliate and FOX stations in general which do not broadcast guide data. But I thought this comes from the satellite which is the whole point you continue to subscribe to locals to get the guide data, and I do have guide data from my satellite SD version of FOX. Is there any truth to what they're telling me?
     
  3. xsailor

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    Halleluiah :grin:
     
  4. Donald Harvey

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    ABC and CBS:

    ABC is WSYR Syracuse NY / I live approx 50 miles to the west. "Digital Service" no other data.
    CBS is WTHV Syracuse NY "Digital Service" no other data
     
  5. Donald Harvey

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    Sorry, Yes I do subscribe to the locals also.
     
  6. M492A

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    Same issue with the same stations. BTW, CBS is WTVH.
     
  7. jcm.oo

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    Your location: CHINCOTEAGUE ISLAND, VA

    Do you susbscribe to your Dish locals: YES, however they are not the same as the ones being picked up OTA.

    Station call letters, digital RF channel, PSIP remapped channel, network affiliation:
    WBOC; RF Channel 21; 16.1; CBS
    UPN21; RF Channel 21; 21.2; UPN
    WMDT; RF Channel 53; 47.1; ABC
    WCPB; RF Channel 56; 28.1; PBS
    WDPB; RF Channel 44; 64.1; PBS

    Is this station in your city: NO STATIONS ARE IN SALISBURY MD, ABOUT 40 MILES OUT
     
  8. swade

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    Hi Mark,

    The only OTA channel not filling in the Guide with info is CBS owned Ch 13 (HD Ch 25) KOVR. As stated below, they broadcast on the SD ch 13 & 13.2 one hour ahead of the network time. The HD Ch 25 CBS is at the standard time as the network (i.e.: one hour behind Ch 13 SD).

    OVR, "CBS13", is the CBS owned-and-operated station in Sacramento, California. It is licensed to Stockton, with studios in West Sacramento. Its transmitter, the KXTV/KOVR Tower (shared with KXTV channel 10), is located in Walnut Grove. The tower is among the tallest in the world and is likely the tallest structure in California, allowing KOVR to cover much of the San Joaquin Valley.

    A more notable oddity with KOVR's affiliation with CBS is that the station runs the network's primetime schedule an hour earlier than typical. CBS programming that is seen from 8pm to 11pm in other Pacific Time Zone markets is shown from 7pm to 10pm instead on KOVR.

    KOVR HD is broadcast on Ch 25.

    This is the only channel not filling into the guide. Reception is very good otherwise.

    I have a 942 Dish DVR Software L282 :grin:
     
  9. CABill

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    You must not watch PBS. Depending on time of day, there are two or four subchannels on channel 6 and none of them match the analog / sat channel 6-00. DISH duplicates EPG info from 6-00 on 6-02, but that doesn't match the programming on that channel.

    KOVR-13 programming is the same on 13-00, 13-01, and 13-02. About two months ago, they got the equipment needed to run prime time 7-10 PM on the digital stations to match the analog. You still can't record local CBS-HD on 13-1 because it only shows Digital Service for 180+ hours. Just hitting Record prompts about canceling everything OTA for that length of time.

    OTA guide info wrong for CBS and PBS. It is missing (Digital Service) on 13.1, 6.1, 6.3, 6.4. The guide info is incorrect for 6.2.
     
  10. jpetersohn

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    I really wish they would get TPT-HD (Twin Cities Public TV/PBS-HD) guide information
    on channel 2.1. This is probably one of the channels I record most often... right now
    only with manual timers which is a pain.
    Most of the others in the Twin Cities seem to be OK, with some problems in the
    17.x (also PBS) channels.

    (Yes, I subscribe to locals).
     
  11. srrobinson2

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    Timmy has been down in this well now for quite a while! When is Lassie coming?
     
  12. Jeff McClellan

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    I think, if memory serves me correct, the original Lassie is deceased.
     
  13. srrobinson2

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    That explains it!!!

    Since Lassie is dead, maybe I should just use a grease pencil on my TV and pretend that the guide information is there for my missing channel and get used to living in the bottom of the well.
     
  14. Bichon

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    Your memory is serving you fine. :) The original Lassie, a male dog named "Pal", was born June 4, 1940, so that would make him 65 years old if he were still around.
     
  15. xsailor

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    edited per xsailor wishes.

    They are working on it.Lets hope we see something soon.
     
  16. srrobinson2

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    [Great! I hope that it will correct my issue too. I am very anxious to return to full functionality.

    Thanks!!
     
  17. dturturro

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    What version are you on?
     
  18. Dec 7, 2005 #118 of 152
    dturturro

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    Does anyone in the NYC DMA get OTA guide data for WWOR-DT, WNET-DT and/or WCBS-DT on the 942?

    How about the 811, same channels?
     
  19. Dec 7, 2005 #119 of 152
    treiher

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    For what its worth, I did receive a phone call at home from Dish Network tech support. I had sent them an email explaining a long email discussion I had with the local FOX station here in Austin (KTBC), because Dish claimed that FOX was not providing the information necessary to link the OTA broadcast into the guide. This was not the case! And KTBC pointed out that it is the TSID data sent with the broadcast that identifies it as channel 7.1 (in this case). If the satellite receiver can figure that much out, then Dish has everything they need to link the two. Anyway, the tech support person said this was new information for them, they would be launching an investigation, and would be contacting me again with an update. We'll see, but I was encouraged that they actually took the time to call me directly, rather than just send an email.
     
  20. Dec 7, 2005 #120 of 152
    dturturro

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    OK, does anyone NOT get the data? Where are all of the New Yorkers?
     

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